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A few days ago I noticed that our budgie, Sky, has a lame foot. I took her to the bird vet yesterday and she said that chances are that something is pressing on the sciatic nerve causing th lameness. She did blood work and the uric acid was normal, but Sky had raised liver and muscle enzymes. Now she wants to do an xray with barium contrast on Friday. She says it could be liver disease or it could be a tumor. (She was a found bird so I don't know her age)

Meanwhile I just spent $350 yesterday and the xray will cost another $300 or so. I don't know what to do. I can't keep spending all of this money for it to turn out to be a tumor we can do nothing about. I am wondering if I should just keep her comfortable as long as I can and then put her to sleep.

I am so upset about this. I am giving Sky water by hand (she can't or won't climb over to her dishes and have hung spray millet (which she's eating) and put some 'bird bread' in a twist tie near her too. This stinks.

Does anyone have any experience with this? Any other idas to keep her comfortable? WWYD?

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Was this an avian vet? I feel your pain. You should have a frank talk with your vet about the odds of survival for each possibility in order of most likely. Also, is your bird already too far along that even with the right diagnosis and treatment is it too late for it to have a chance to work. I just lost two of my birds since last summer and I can tell you, after the fact, there seems to be very little point in carrying on when they have reached the point that they can't move around.

My heart goes out to you, it is a hard decision, but I think you will make the right one.
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I am sorry that you are going thorugh this. I know you are looking for someone to tell you what to do but whether or not you choose to put her down is really a personal choice.

In my opinion, I would ask the vet if those are the only 2 options or if there is a third easily treatable option that won't cause the bird any more distress. Maybe then your choices will be clearer. Pick their brain for possible outcomes and treatment plans. If it is possibly an easy fix then you would likely go through with more testing, but if neither choice is good then why would you put them thorugh the test. This is solely my opinion though and whatever you choose is okay in my eyes.

I have had many vets. Some want to push till the end and make you feel terrible if you don't and some that look at you like why are you keeping them alive so long. So in the end, you have to decide what you think is best for your bird.
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Thanks guys....Any ideas for a perch-bound bird? She won't sit on the bottom so scattering food and water there doesn't work. I have been using twist ties for food (she's eating the spray millet), but the water is difficult. I have been using my finger to try to drip it into her beak, any other ideas?
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The only thing I can think of is to put the perch close to the wall of the cage and put the bowls there at an easy height?
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Regarding the perch, perhaps you could remove all the perches so she has to sit on the floor and then put her food and water bowls on the floor. But raise the floor high enough so she can see outside her cage.

Regarding the choice whether to euthanize or treat, I agree with Ericka that's a personal decision.

Regarding your vet's recommended course of testing, that's consistent with how my avian vet has diagnosed my lame budgies. Unfortunately, however, quite often, the first "regular" x-ray was not clear enough to sufficiently pinpoint the problem. But with my last lame budgie, my vet recommended an ultrasound in lieu of the barium series; IIRC, the ultrasound would have been faster and clearer and less expensive. Perhaps you could ask your vet to confer with my vet, who's in Southern California. Here's his website: http://thebirdclinic.com/. (He'll be back in the office this Friday.) But once your vet does the ultrasound or barium series, she should be able to determine whether surgery or other treatment will be worthwhile.

FWIW, my budgie hen has had liver disease for 3-4 years, but her liver has improved with daily liquid Calorad supplementation and a special liver formulation of Roudybush pellets.

Also, a few of my budgies have had tumors. Despite excellent care, one budgie with a testicle tumor died during surgery (a vein tore) and another with a testicle tumor died after surgery (from previously existing renal failure, not from the surgery).

So in short, even with the best avian veterinary care, you are never guaranteed a successful outcome.

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The only thing I can think of is to put the perch close to the wall of the cage and put the bowls there at an easy height?

Thanks again for your reply. Unfortunately there is no easy height, except for right at the level of her head. She can't bend over a dish because of the one foot - that's the problem. I need to keep her hydrated which has been the biggest challenge. Have you ever heard of a budgie taking water from one of those bottles they use for hamsters? That is my next guess....
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You might want to try a tube waterer like this. Place it at a height she can easily get at from her perch.



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