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Old 04-11-2019, 08:29 AM
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You guys are in for a shock, look how big they are now!!!

Lets talk genetics for minute first though.
Dad is Sky Blue, Opaline, Spangle / Cinnamon
Mom is Light Green

Since neither one of the parents have any dark factors, all of the chicks will be considered Light green, am I correct on this?

Chick #2 is female since she came out as a Cinnamon, but she should also be Opaline..... which for the life of me, I can never identify on young chicks! To me she looks normal....it's like my brain refuses to see the opaline lol. Do you see it?


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Oh my goodness how are they already so BIG?? They are absolutely beautiful, thanks for sharing
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They're stunning!!

Ok, here's the deal: she's not opaline.

Which leaves several options:

1. The father is not actually opaline
2. The father is split for opaline
3. There's an issue with the way the mutation is expressed (i.e another mutation that cancels the effect of the opaline mutation or a further mutation which prevents expression of the gene at all)
4. There was a reversion of the opaline mutation back to wild type

Ok: the father is definitely opaline, so that knocks out 1. I don't believe there's any recorded evidence that opaline does anything when it's only present on one X chromosome, so that knocks out 2 because theoretically it's impossible for him to show phenotypically opaline if he only had 1 copy.

That leaves 3 and 4. It's impossible to tell which one of the two it is (unless you sequence her DNA but that's... let's not go there ) and they're both extremely rare. However, it's not impossible, so this is most likely the reason she's not opaline. I guess that's good news because you aren't going crazy, she really isn't opaline

Also, this is all assuming that she's the only female that's not opaline, which means that all other chicks MUST be male. If for some reason you get another female, we're going to have to look again at potential issues with the father's mutation as the likelihood that two of these mutation/reversions happened in the same clutch is so close to nothing it's considered to be impossible.
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My mind just exploded. Please excuse me while I clean up the mess and dwell on this a bit. LOL

Thanks for confirming i'm not going insane about not seeing opaline. I had no idea that options 3 and 4 were even possible. wow.
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Haha, glad I could help.

I've definitely seen some crazy things happen with mutations in all the years looking at them on the forums. There was a member once who had a chimeric budgie a little while ago, it's an interesting thread if you want to read through it

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Head Scritches!




Chick #2 fell asleep in my hand, she's so sweet!




And chick #3 is still quite sqirmy, but he's super adorable.

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Soooo adorable, I love how #1 is reacting to the scritches.
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Oh how sweet! They are beautiful. Is Chick #1 still absolutely ginormous compared to the others?
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Budgie cuteness! I am trying to contain myself from doing a cuteness dance.
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Oh how sweet! They are beautiful. Is Chick #1 still absolutely ginormous compared to the others?
Yes, he is gigantic and extra floofy.

His weigh in this morning was 57g, and chick #2 has actually caught up with him too! She was 57g as well, and chick #3 was 52g
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