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Old 10-14-2015, 01:29 PM
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Hi guys!

Sorry for the sudden disappearance of about a month.

Nooka bullies Indy a bit and I don't know how I should solve it? Both are boys.
There's enough space to fly and move around, there are 2 eating bowls, enough toys, lots of out time to fly yet Nooka seems to act frustrated and/or protective over the food and toys. Nooka does the high 'PPPPRRRRIIII' thing and wants to bite at Indy if he wants to play or eat too at the same time, doesn't matter if it's out of the other bowl, and there's enough space between them. Indy is quite mellow and submissive and doesn't stand his ground and is becoming a bit scared of Nooka and doesn't know what to expect sometimes. Because at other times, they will sometimes preen each other and sing together, so Nooka is a tad unpredictable.

Could this all have something to do with that Nooka might have gotten out of the nest/away from his parents too early? That he wasn't raised well enough? Or is it his personality?

Nooka doesn't always do this, mainly just when he's feeling very energized, maybe overly excited, or very hungry. When he's more tired, Indy can sit next to him, otherwise he'll 'prrriiii' and bite. But I still find it all horrible for Indy, and wonder what I could do?

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Hello Jisca,

There can be occasional light bickerings between budgies, usually these bickerings are very short lived and end in the span of just a couple minutes, sometimes even less. And while these bickerings can happen they are not constant as in multiples times per day nor on a daily basis.

If there is constant bullying and you notice Indi is getting increasingly stressed about the situation and is not able to go about his normal everyday life without Nooka's intrusion, then permanently housing your budgies on different cages would be the best and safest solution. If Nooka is persistent in his ways and is constantly chasing and engaging in fight with Indi, by separating them you will be avoiding the fights from turning vicious and potentially ending badly. If you see Nooka plucking feathers out of Indi or viciously biting the feet/toes, then there is no choice but to separate them.

As to your Nooka's less than desirable temperament, without knowing his history, there is no way to tell the true reasons for his behaviour.
It's true that chicks can inherit their parents bad temperament and that would reflect on their overall personalities. If he was prematurely taken away from the parents (to be hand fed) and didn't get the proper socialization with same species companions, that could also explain the inability to get along with Indi. These aspects combined can also explain the behaviour.
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I agree with Aluz, and if you cage them separately but next to each other, they will still enjoy each other's company with out having the bad results...
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I don't believe it is fair at all for anybudgie to be bullied and tormented on a regular basis. I'd separate the two and keep the cages next to one another. You may try giving them closely supervised out of cage time together but I definitely would not house them in the same cage.
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I had the same problem with Henry and Stewart. Henry was just a babe when I brought him home. The two boys got along fine. But as Henry matured he started bulling Stewart. Stewart is a very mild mannered fella and would turn the other cheek. This just made Henry worse. So now they have separate cages but next to each other so they do have company. It does work. This was not the solution I wanted but it was best for the boys.
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Thanks for the advises!

If it gets worse to an unbearable level, I'll separate them. I don't think it's yet there, there are still oftenly sweet with each other, but Nooka can act a bit 'insane' every now and then, multiple times a day. I don't really want to separate them if I don't have to, you know...
I moved their eating bowls this time to check if it might help Nooka feel less protective, I've yet to see what happens as they haven't found out where they are yet.

Another question, I was thinking of another possible solution. With many animals, it is so that the more there are, the less focused frustration there is, it will be divided more. Is it also that way with budgies? I was wondering if getting more budgies might dilute/lessen Nookas behaviour since there'd be less chance he would be focused on one? Or will it get worse?
I have also read somewhere, that an older budgie might help young budgies get the right behaviour, is this true?
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At this point in time and given the circumstances I don't think adding one or more budgies to the mix would be beneficial. By doing so you will run the risk of having further problems and adding even more stress into the current situation and the potential new budgies would be at a disadvantage from the get-go.

Adding an older budgie is not a guarantee your Nooka's behaviour will be fixed, and this can potentiate further fighting between him and said older budgie who may not be okay with Nooka's constant interferences and respond more negatively to Nooka's excess energy and both of them can end up harmed in a bad fight.
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At this point in time and given the circumstances I don't think adding one or more budgies to the mix would be beneficial. By doing so you will run the risk of having further problems and adding even more stress into the current situation and the potential new budgies would be at a disadvantage from the get-go.

Adding an older budgie is not a guarantee your Nooka's behaviour will be fixed, and this can potentiate further fighting between him and said older budgie who may not be okay with Nooka's constant interferences and respond more negatively to Nooka's excess energy and both of them can end up harmed in a bad fight.
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