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Old 10-27-2015, 02:56 PM
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So recently I introduced my older parakeet to a new baby (A few months old). I did all the necessary quarantining and training before they were ever introduced. When they are together, the baby (Boogie) seems to desperately want to be friends. However, the older one (Elmer) mostly ignores Boogie.

The behavior cues I've seen are:
Elmer gently headbutts Boogie.
Elmer and Boogie open and close their beaks at each other, making no sounds.
Elmer doesn't let him near the food.

Elmer's favorite thing to do when out on the playground is to sit near the food dish, wherever it is. Boogie, wanting to be buddies, tries to sit with Elmer, but Elmer doesn't like that. I figure its a protecting his food thing, but Boogie has his own food dish. Boogie just wants to be near Elmer.

They don't really play. They just sit there. I really wanted them to be buddies, but I am not so sure now.

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Elmer is a long story. I adopted Elmer from a shelter about five months ago. They said Elmer (at the time Eleanor) was female. Age was unknown. I knew it was an adult because it's eye had a ring. Later at a bird farm I was told Elmer was male. Okay. Made more sense since the cere was not rough like it should be on an adult female.

Boogie was bought from this same bird farm as a baby in September. We do not know it's gender yet officially, being so young. It still has all-black eyes. Guessing about 3 months old. I wonder if Boogie is male though, because Boogie recently started singing a lot.

They are kept in separate cages right now in separate rooms. They are only together for playtime.

As far as the food dish, I'm not sure. The playground has two food dishes with seed. But they only seem interested in the one that Elmer protects. they both have the same food and are at the same height.

As I said, Boogie seems to want to just be near Elmer. Whenever Elmer moves, Boogie follows. Elmer doesn't seem to care at all.


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Hi Felicity --

It would be helpful if you could provide a little more information so we can get a better idea of the situation with your two budgies.

How old is Elmer and how long did you have him before getting the new budgie?

How old is Boogie now?

How large is the cage you have them in?

Does Elmer chase Boogie away from both food dishes or just the one that Elmer considers to be his own dish?

Does Elmer act aggressively toward Boogie or does him basically just ignore him except when it comes to the food dish?
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Hello, are you positive of your budgies sex? they both have male names but could one possibly be a female? As Deborah has mentioned it is very hard to more or less guess what the problem could be.
The ages are relevant, did you place Boogie into Elmer's cage?
Or did you get a new cage ?
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Hi Felicity --

It would be helpful if you could provide a little more information so we can get a better idea of the situation with your two budgies.

How old is Elmer and how long did you have him before getting the new budgie?

How old is Boogie now?

How large is the cage you have them in?

Does Elmer chase Boogie away from both food dishes or just the one that Elmer considers to be his own dish?

Does Elmer act aggressively toward Boogie or does him basically just ignore him except when it comes to the food dish?
Elmer is a long story. I adopted Elmer from a shelter about five months ago. They said Elmer (at the time Eleanor) was female. Age was unknown. I knew it was an adult because it's eye had a ring. Later at a bird farm I was told Elmer was male. Okay. Made more sense since the cere was not rough like it should be on an adult female.

Boogie was bought from this same bird farm as a baby in September. We do not know it's gender yet officially, being so young. It still has all-black eyes. Guessing about 3 months old. I wonder if Boogie is male though, because Boogie recently started singing a lot.

They are kept in separate cages right now in separate rooms. They are only together for playtime.

As far as the food dish, I'm not sure. The playground has two food dishes with seed. But they only seem interested in the one that Elmer protects. they both have the same food and are at the same height.

As I said, Boogie seems to want to just be near Elmer. Whenever Elmer moves, Boogie follows. Elmer doesn't seem to care at all.
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OK, that doesn't sound like actually "bullying" per se so I'm not as concerned. Since they are caged separately Boogie is getting plenty to eat. Give them some time to get used to one another and Elmer may come around.

Can you explain what you mean by "bird farm"? I'm not sure I know what you are referring to.
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A bird farm is better than a pet store! My local bird farm is solely for the bird owner/lover. They sell bird supplies you can't find in your typical pet stores. They also operate with trusted breeders in the area to provide a great selection of birds. They also provide services like nail clipping, wing clipping, and beak shaping. Its a magical place!
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Thanks for the extra information Felicity. If possible can you post a close up picture of both of your birds ceres? Our experts will be able to tell you what sex they are then.
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A bird farm is better than a pet store! My local bird farm is solely for the bird owner/lover. They sell bird supplies you can't find in your typical pet stores. They also operate with trusted breeders in the area to provide a great selection of birds. They also provide services like nail clipping, wing clipping, and beak shaping. Its a magical place!
Wow! That sounds so much better than what I was imagining.
I'd love to see one -- we don't have anything at all like that in this area.
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