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Unhappy Can I fix this situation?

I have two relatively young birds and one has established himself over the other. They get along "fine" until Mylo wants to eat, then Merri shows up and that causes Mylo to fly away. Id still see Mylo eat but it was sparingly and its just not fair to him. I just moved him to a smaller cage this evening, and I can tell he isnt happy and doesn't want to be apart from Merri. I jsut cant risk Mylo being starved to death.
I'm distraught because I intentionally bought a large flight cage under the impression it would be enough for my two birds but apparently not. The cage i moved him into is very very small so I am hoping to figure out a way to make a temporary separator so Mylo can spend most afternoons separate in the cage and all evenings together with Merri. ideally screen or something. Ugh.
Here I was thinking I could eventually have all 4 of my birds living together and yet it appears as though they will ALL have to live SEPARATE!

Has anybody else had this problem and solved it??

Such a bummer.

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I would start by adding a few more food bowls, that way, Mylo can eat in peace. Mylo can't defend multiple bowls at the same time, and will likely leave him alone to eat if he is at a different bowl.

Just make sure you keep an eye on them during feedings to prevent any serious squabbles.

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I would start by adding a few more food bowls, that way, Mylo can eat in peace. Mylo can't defend multiple bowls at the same time, and will likely leave him alone to eat if he is at a different bowl.

Just make sure you keep an eye on them during feedings to prevent any serious squabbles.

Yeah, at the moment all of the food dishes are on the same level it just seems that wherever Mylo wants to be, Merri follows. I could try more food dishes but i feel like no matter where Mylo goes he'll be a target for Merri's attention. It's not violent whatsoever, but Mylo never gets a break it seems. I feel like being able to keep them separated for most of the day and then together at night would be the best scenario but I'll have to make the divider myself..
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Yeah, at the moment all of the food dishes are on the same level it just seems that wherever Mylo wants to be, Merri follows. I could try more food dishes but i feel like no matter where Mylo goes he'll be a target for Merri's attention. It's not violent whatsoever, but Mylo never gets a break it seems. I feel like being able to keep them separated for most of the day and then together at night would be the best scenario but I'll have to make the divider myself..
Just make sure that Mylo gets to eat before you put him back in. Sometimes my boys do this too. You could try what I do when this happens. I take the chaser out and put him in a separate cage for about an hour, and then put him back in. That usually seems to work. Don't remove Mylo, because Merri is going to see that his behavior is acceptable, which it's obviously not. Remove Merri into another cage for about an hour and see if this helps. You may have to do this several times before he starts understanding that his behavior is no longer acceptable.
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Just make sure that Mylo gets to eat before you put him back in. Sometimes my boys do this too. You could try what I do when this happens. I take the chaser out and put him in a separate cage for about an hour, and then put him back in. That usually seems to work. Don't remove Mylo, because Merri is going to see that his behavior is acceptable, which it's obviously not. Remove Merri into another cage for about an hour and see if this helps. You may have to do this several times before he starts understanding that his behavior is no longer acceptable.
I already removed Mylo. Should I put Mylo back and move Merri now?
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Don't panic....lol. It's ok. You can put Mylo back in and if Merri start acting up again, pull him. He just needs to be re-taught a more accepted behavior.
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I'd appreciate it if we could please back up a little and ask that you provide some additional background information.

1. What are the dimension of the cage Mylo and Merri are/were housed in? Length/Width/Height

2. What are the dimensions of the cage you indicate is "way too small"?

3. How long have you had these two budgies?

4. When one bird refuses to allow another to eat even with multiple food dishes, that is considered intimidation and bullying. Subjecting a budgie to this for very long can cause extreme mental and emotional distress in the bird that is being dominated. (In this case, Mylo)

Often the best solution is to permanently separate the two budgies as far as housing goes and allow them to have out-of-cage time together to play.
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I just found this in pursuit of info for a different thread, but thought it may be beneficial for you as well. I found this product that may help, but it's a shot in the dark. This definitely isn't a sure thing, but it might be something. You might still have to separate them on a more permanent basis if the bullying doesn't stop.

AviCalm Calming Supplement - A certified and tested food additive form of L-Theanine proven to reduce bad behavior in pet animals.

It has worked for many other birds, for plucking and aggression. Worth a shot I'd say.
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I'd appreciate it if we could please back up a little and ask that you provide some additional background information.

1. What are the dimension of the cage Mylo and Merri are/were housed in? Length/Width/Height


2. What are the dimensions of the cage you indicate is "way too small"?


3. How long have you had these two budgies?

4. When one bird refuses to allow another to eat even with multiple food dishes, that is considered intimidation and bullying. Subjecting a budgie to this for very long can cause extreme mental and emotional distress in the bird that is being dominated. (In this case, Mylo)

Often the best solution is to permanently separate the two budgies as far as housing goes and allow them to have out-of-cage time together to play.
1. 31-Inch long, 20-1/2-inch wide, 53-inch high with 1/2-inch wire spacing

2. I'd have to measure but it is in no way appropriate long term, it's not 19' wide, or even high for that matter.

3. Since January 3rd. They were getting along fine at first but it seems as though Merri recently got a bit more territorial about the food. Mylo can still eat but not on his terms. I've only just noticed this happening and find it 100% unacceptable and heartbreaking. So far I've only managed to own one pair (my first pair) that were perfectly bonded, ate at the same time at diff dishes, etc. I miss them terribly.

4. Very sad. I was so optimistic about them being a bonded pair. Never seem to be able to get the situation I'm hoping for w these birds.
In the morning I intend to find a way to separate this large cage into two halfs because I have spent hundreds of dollars on cages in the last few months and simply can't afford a third one. (The other cage has Pippin and his new pal Percy in it- they come out and fly every day and hang out together otherwise they are separated)

I don't suppose it would be worth putting them all together to see if that changes the dynamic? Or is this a larger risk? Pippin used to do the same food thing to Peeta when he was with us still- which is why I got the separation option so they could spend their evenings together but mornings and afternoons apart so I could be sure they were each eating enough.. So I have to imagine putting Pippin and Merri together (ironic) may not be a good move.. Very upset that these birds don't want to like each other for me
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While I cage my birds separately, they do spend the afternoons together and my female use to not let my male eat in peace. It never got violent but my male has learned to shoo my female away when she gets on his nerves. They have multiple food bowls but she always wanted to bug him but now she's gotten the message and has backed off and they take their turns eating and on rare occasion they eat together.
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