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Hi.
I have 2 baby budgies, I am not sure how old they are.Baby budgies vibrating-uploadfromtaptalk1456936486375.jpg that is a photo of them. Whenever I hold them they vibrate. I assume this happens even when they're on their own. Is this normal?
And any idea how old they might be from the pictures? One is a little bigger than the other.
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These chicks are very young and not anywhere near weaning age. The budgie on the left had the downy feathers plucked and is likely 16 - 17 days old.
The other chick is a couple of days younger.
Do you have all the necessary equipment to finish raising these chicks?
Are you experienced in hand feeding baby budgies?

It's very likely they vibrate their wings when you go to them, because they are hungry. Budgie chicks will vibrate their wings when begging their parents (or caregiver) for food. Also when handling and since they still haven't grown their feathers, it's always best to have the hands warm so that they don't get cold.
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Thank you.

I have a syringe and some powder formula. I mix it with warm water and feed them 3 or 4 times a day. I put the syringe tip(no needle, of course) near the mouth and they will start pecking it vigorously, then I push the plunger gently. The bigger one will start shaking its head from side to side when it doesn't want to eat anymore. so I stop.
With the smaller one, I stop when its food bag (the pouch right below the neck) is puffed up.
I had them together, but they were pecking each other, so I seperated them. Because their skin is still so fragile, but their pecks are quite strong and sharp. So I seperated them to avoid any accidental harm. There are 2 air pouches visible at the base of the wings, I assume those are the lungs. Definitely do not want those punctured.

as for the vibration, I am not sure it is from the wings. the best way I can describe it is like when humans shiver. But this is constant, even in warm hands.

I will be looking for de-husked millet to put in the cage so they learn how to eat on their own eventually. Is this a good idea? do they need water?

If there is any other advice on how to care for them, I will be very appreciative.
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Thank you.

I have a syringe and some powder formula. I mix it with warm water and feed them 3 or 4 times a day. I put the syringe tip(no needle, of course) near the mouth and they will start pecking it vigorously, then I push the plunger gently. The bigger one will start shaking its head from side to side when it doesn't want to eat anymore. so I stop.
With the smaller one, I stop when its food bag (the pouch right below the neck) is puffed up.
I had them together, but they were pecking each other, so I seperated them. Because their skin is still so fragile, but their pecks are quite strong and sharp. So I seperated them to avoid any accidental harm. There are 2 air pouches visible at the base of the wings, I assume those are the lungs. Definitely do not want those punctured.

as for the vibration, I am not sure it is from the wings. the best way I can describe it is like when humans shiver. But this is constant, even in warm hands.

I will be looking for de-husked millet to put in the cage so they learn how to eat on their own eventually. Is this a good idea? do they need water?

If there is any other advice on how to care for them, I will be very appreciative.
I am not sure what you mean by air pouches at the base of the wings... These are not lungs, I wonder if you are seeing bubbles in the crop?? Very confused ... Got a pic of what you mean?
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If they are shivering, then it's likely that they are cold. Do you have their brooders set at an appropriate temperature?

Can you tells us more about these chicks' background? Where did they come from? Were they just pulled out of the parent's nest to be hand fed or was the breeder handfeeding them before you got these chicks?

It's not advisable to get very young and unweaned budgie chicks to raise, especially when not having prior experience in hand raising them.

This link may be useful to you: https://talkbudgies.com/budgie-breedi...ing-guide.html
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Hi,

Now that i've searched for crop bubbles, that's what I think it is.



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If they are shivering, then it's likely that they are cold. Do you have their brooders set at an appropriate temperature?

Can you tells us more about these chicks' background? Where did they come from? Were they just pulled out of the parent's nest to be hand fed or was the breeder handfeeding them before you got these chicks?

It's not advisable to get very young and unweaned budgie chicks to raise, especially when not having prior experience in hand raising them.

This link may be useful to you: https://talkbudgies.com/budgie-breedi...ing-guide.html
I got them yesterday from a pet shop. I was buying toys for my adult budgies when the keeper asked me if they're tame. I assumed he meant if they come and play comfortably on my hand. I said no, and he offered these baby budgies, said they'll be comfortable around my hands if I raise them. So I thought i'll give it a shot. I don't have a brooder, I keep them in those containers in the picture. Then I put both containers inside a cage and keep a cloth over it to prevent drafts.

The room temp in my house is around 32c.
the shopkeeper had all the babies in a shelf by themselves, no adults in there. And he also demonstrated how to do it. He had a big pot of the formula mixed already. So my guess is that he was hand feeding all of them.

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That's a misconception, parent raised chicks can be tamed if they are handled daily from an early age and when properly socialized as they continue to grow.

I find it very strange that the pet store owner would simply give these chicks away. The information on the link given above will also help you out in getting the proper type of brooder and to keeping your chicks warm. That small glass container doesn't seem suitable for your chick to be in.
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By 'offer' I meant he offered to sell them. So I did have to pay. Will an ir heatlamp be sufficient if I can't get a brooder?
I had seen that link. I will look into it a bit more.

From the pictures do those look like crop bubbles? How do I go about treating them? (If they need treating)

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The bubbles you mention are in fact air in the crop and this can happen while you feed the chicks. Air bubbles will sort themselves out under normal circumstances so you shouldn't have a problem with them.
When handfeeding, it's important to give the chicks time to properly swallow the food and breathe well during the feeding process.
By knowing your chick's rhythm during feeding time it will be easier to avoid these air bubbles on the crop.

From the photos to me it seems that is not an air bubble but food. Air bubbles are transparent. It would be helpful for you to check the Budgie Breeding section of the forums and take a look at a couple of Breeding journals that have photos of chicks with full crops, so that you have a better idea on what is normal and not normal.
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