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Hi!

We adopted a young female parakeet a few weeks ago (well, we're as sure as we can be that she's female at this point without testing!), and she is hanging out with our 1.5 yo male in the evenings (they have separate cages) now that she's out of quarantine. She's about 12 weeks old.

Our male is definitely displaying mating behavior with her, which we discourage constantly. She puts up with the in-your-face attention with fairly good nature (occasionally gets fed up) and doesn't like him trying to step on her back, but she recently has started trying to feed him back and doing some tail rubbing (oh my!) on the top of her cage and our hands. Is this unhealthy in such a young bird?

They SO BADLY want to be near each other, but I also don't want to stress either of them out... not sure of its more stressful to be apart or together. Thoughts or insights?

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Greetings welcome to the forum.I'm going to let our wonderful expert friends advice you on this.but wanted to say hello and glad you joined us.looking forward to some photos soon.blessings and we're here for you.
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It isn't unusual, but I would encourage you NOT to breed them because she is waaaaaaay too young. A year tops, is the potential breeding period otherwise, you risk your female becoming eggbound because their bodies are not fully developed and are smaller, or other reproductive issues, and quite possibly, and I am not going to lie to you, a very early death.

My little Nutmeg was being wooed by my Zucchini 'cause they loved each other so much, and it was approximately less than a year before they started breeding. I believe this was a mistake and really didn't ask for that to happen, but Zucchi had other ideas, and well, Nutmeg was receptive to it. You just can't break up a good thing but if I could do things differently, I would have NEVER had them co-mingle until a year's time.

That, of course, doesn't mean health problems can't happen with one's budgie, just that it is recommended not to breed until the female is a year or more old. Had I done things differently, I may have prevented future problems with Nutmeg and she might still be with me today. After a few clutches, she started to go down hill and had one siamese egg partial egg binding experience and then started to develop an ovarian issue.

So, even though budgies in the wild are sexually mature from 16 weeks on doesn't mean your caged birds should be. It's fine if they develop a relationship, but watch that birdie mounting business. Try to discourage it, but once it happens, it's very hard to stop them from 'engaging' when your back is turned and you aren't looking.



Note: Just for the record, I am not super experienced in breeding budgies so I look forward to anyone who is adding some more information.
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Hi there,

I think that Bailey is probably a little too overexcited and it isn't really healthy for Lilo to be the source of his constant...adoration Its normal for all budgies to have some urges of that nature, but Lilo being annoyed all the time by his advances really isn't healthy, no.

Until his hormones settle down a bit, I actually would separate them and let them have out of cage time together. In Bailey's cage, lots of interesting toys and moving his things around will help him to stay distracted and hopefully take some attention away from bothering Lilo all the time. It's good that you're doing all you can to ensure no breeding takes place
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Thanks so much for the advice! Our plan was to get a second male budgie as a pal for Bailey (our male), and we were told our baby was a male, but after a few weeks of listening to her sounds and watching her cere, we're pretty sure we have a baby girl (Lilo). We don't ever plan to breed them, therefore we will always keep them in separate cages.

They seem bummed when they're not out together, but it worked a bit better to have one out at a time tonight as long as there was a blanket across the top of Lilo's cage (where Bailey usually lands). We'll keep an eye on it. As much as we want them to be buddies, we also don't want to stress them out (or have unexpected baby birds in the future!).

Really hoping Bailey cools his jets a bit after this delightful spring season...
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That's great to hear It sounds like you've got things sorted well and I'm happy to hear you are discouraging breeding

Young females have a whitish, pale blue or beige cere with a chalky appearance that turns dark brown when they are in breeding condition. Young males have a pink to purplish cere with a more pearly sheen that matures into royal blue. If Lilo's cere matches the first description, then I do agree you have a girl
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