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Old 08-07-2016, 01:53 AM
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Hi everyone, I'm new to budgies and had these two male budgies for about two weeks now. They seem happy and chirping about and are getting used to their new home, and I've managed to get Cobalt to even use my finger to support himself as he plays with his toy.



However three days ago I noticed they started fighting heaps. They squawk at each other and jump all over the place, pecking at each other's feet. They've also started preening each other less although they still randomly kiss occasionally and regurgitate food (I think).

The fights started around this ladder perch that I moved and now they love, but it's been getting more nasty including food bowl pulls. I've added an extra food bowl, and a new perch is on delivery. Cobalt used to give in to Cloud, but now they're both just nasty little cuties battling it out, even stepping on each other. I do notice they still sleep together and huddle when they are scared.

Any tips on how to make them make up? Many thanks!
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Hi there and to the forums!

Cloud and Cobalt are beautiful Are you sure they're both males? To me, the budgie on the left appears to be female.

At any rate, if they really are fighting to the point where they are stepping on each other, definite action must be taken to ensure it doesn't escalate. How large is their cage? For two budgies, the minimum size should be 30 inches X 18 inches X 18 inches.

Also, you should have two of everything--favourite swings or perches as well as food and water bowls--to minimise the chance of them fighting. If you do all these things and still they are arguing more than light bickering and there is physical contact, they should be separated right away before more serious injuries are sustained

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Uh oh I didn't realize it was possible for females to have blue ceres :0 I'll definitely try a post in the other forum section!

It's really interesting they're as squabbly as 5 year olds, as they only fight over the things the other one is having (which is really cute to some degree). Their cage is 65x40x40cm which I read was good enough to fit two budgies? I would love to start releasing them once they have learnt to step up and down. They seem to just have discovered the new food bowl, so I am going to see how long this truce lasts. I have another cage ready, just felt it would be really sad to separate them as they seem like they do have some love for each other.

Also, do males and females not get along? Thanks for the reply!
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A close up pic would be better. Seems like you might have a female.
I think your cage is fine. In my experience sometimes females can be a bit bossy.
For tame budgies, I am a huge supporter of keeping budgies in a separate cage, but have supervised play time together.
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If it turns out you have a male and female, you are going to need to be sure you discourage mating.

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Finally got some good pictures. The grey one is Cloud, the whitish Cobalt. It's reeeeally hard to get Cloud to look at me so that was as good as it gets...

Cobalt is always slightly puffed up and bobs his head around sometimes (so I do think he's male). Cloud on the other hand is more chirpy and sings a lot.

I am seriously considering separating them as they are still chasing each other across the cage. I noticed they both have also started eating less as they are too busy fighting
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Cloud is definitely female.

I'm having trouble determining the gender of Cobalt though.
Was the picture taken in natural light or with a flash?
My first thought is male but I also see whitish rings around the nares so...

If the two birds are fighting then it would be best to put them in separate cages at this time.
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They're both taken with natural light and no flash. However Cobalt's white top part of the cere is not as prominent as Cloud's, it's slightly more of an even purple-pink shade.
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If the cere is a translucent smooth pinkish-purple then little Cobalt is a male.

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