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Old 02-03-2017, 09:14 AM
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So I have two budgies, Nico who's a little boy of about five months and a new budgie I got on monday. The new one still hasn't got a name since i don't know if its a boy or a girl but Im thinking it's a boy.
Both of them get along really well, they play, sing and cuddle together, the only issue I have is that the baby keeps nosediving into the seed bowl and then proceeds to kick all the seeds out, when it's done the bird just sits there looking totally happy with the deed.
Is there anything I can do to stop this? I mean it's kind of adorable but it's a complete waste of seeds.
Iv'e had budgies since I was 8 years old but this is the first time I've seen anything like this.
Can I buy another bowl to make into a tiny little nest or something?


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Old 02-03-2017, 09:43 AM
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Are you aware that the new budgie should have been put into quarantine when you brought it home rather than putting it directly into the cage with your current bird?

Quarantine means housing your new bird in a different cage in a different room as far away as possible from the room where your current bird(s) are housed for a period of 30-45 days.
Budgies mask symptoms when they are ill. Symptoms may not show up for over two weeks.
Often you will not even realize your bird is not well. Many budgie illnesses are airborne which is why you need to quarantine your new bird in a completely different room.

It is also a good idea to always take a new budgie in to see an Avian Vet for a "well-birdie" check-up. This allows you to develop a good relationship with the vet and the vet can establish a baseline for your bird in case of any future illnesses or injuries.

Distinction between an Avian Vet and a Vet that "Will See Birds"

The baby is only 10 weeks old and is exhibiting normal behavior for a budgie at that age. Either purchase a seed dish that the budgie can only get his head into, or put only the morning/evening ration of seed into the bowl you have. Each budgie should be receiving 1 1/2 - 2 teaspoons of seed per day.

https://talkbudgies.com/articles-diet...lay-roses.html

https://talkbudgies.com/articles-diet...-seed-mix.html

https://talkbudgies.com/articles-diet...ur-budgie.html

Most budgies outgrow the desire to play in their food dish as they get older.

Please do not give them a nesting site -- that is totally unnecessary.
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I asked the breeder if I should put him in a seperate cage and he said no, it was fine to put them together straight away so that's what I did. My mother has done that before as well and it's worked out fine. But I appreciate your adivice nonetheless.
We actually don't have an avian vet where I live. Just a normal vet that does accept budgies but doesn't have a whole lot more knowledge than I can google myself so that is kind of out of the question.
I live in Sweden so having different kinds of vets isn't common practice here, especially since I live in a smallish town.

Thanks, that's what I'll do then, I'll make sure they have enough food for the day.
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Please keep in mind that just because something was done a certain way and there were no repercussions at that time doesn't mean it is a "best practice" nor that you should continue doing it just because it was done that way in the past.

The purpose of this particular forum is to promote the best practices for the health and well-being of budgies.

We do not recommend trying to self-diagnose and treat illnesses or injuries and we always recommend quarantine for a reason.

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I fully agree with the advice you have been given and of how important it is to quarantine as a preventative measure. You could still do so, even despite your budgies having been in contact with each other.
Another aspect worthy of mention that is also not recommended is to simply place a new bird into the older bird's cage without the proper introductions having been made. By forcing a new bird into the other bird's cage you are also running much higher risks for the old budgie to not take the cage invasion well and for animosity to set in, leading to fights that can intensify and become quite vicious over time where worst case scenario, one of your budgies can get severely injured or even killed in the process.

I also live in a country where it's more difficult to find specialty vets.
When my birds get sick or need emergency attention, I have to travel long distance to either an exotic vet's clinic or a veterinary hospital that offers avian vet services to treat my birds.
You can try to find out a clinic as close to your area as possible and choose a professional to take your budgies to, because it's not realistic to assume they will never need the medical assistance and it's good to be prepared in case of an emergency.
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Hi Lina! Welcome to the forum.

Faerybee has given you lots of great information and resources to look through.
I can tell you honestly that when I first joined the forum, the ideas I had about bird keeping was outdated. And if I had bought two budgies at different times, before joining the forum, I would have put them in the same cage as well- because I didn't know any better.
And like you and your Mum, my Dad had done things the old fashioned way all his life (it wasn't old fashioned back then, it was the only way they knew with lack of research to tell them any differently).

Thankfully, while I still just had my first bird, I joined this forum and quickly learnt that even though some people can get lucky and *never* have any issues with introducing two birds, the stories where it goes wrong are always harrowing- for both owner and pet- and nearly always start with the phrase 'If only I knew how important quarantine was'.

So, while you have your two birds in together, it isn't too late too split them up and see through quarantine for the required time.
It is always best to have a cage as back up as a hospital cage any way, so having to get another cage isn't a terrible thing.

As your vet has little bird knowledge themselves, it might be worth enquiring if they know of any other practices that do have an avian specialist. While it might be too far for you to travel too, if they were able to speak to a colleague on the phone in an emergency situation, it would be very reassuring for you to have that back up.
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Hi Lina! Welcome to the forum.

Thankfully, while I still just had my first bird, I joined this forum and quickly learnt that even though some people can get lucky and *never* have any issues with introducing two birds, the stories where it goes wrong are always harrowing- for both owner and pet- and nearly always start with the phrase 'If only I knew how important quarantine was'.
Like if Therm were quoting me! Nobody in any pet shop ever told me about quarantine (or any other bird owners here). My birds and I learnt it hard way. Unfortunately, Lulu got sick few days after arrival and we had to treat both her and Maks. With a lack of avian vets here, it was a miracle that we found some vet that knew what I was talking about! So I am signing "Quarantine is necessary!"
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Hi Lina

It's great that you've decide to learn even more about budgies by joining the forums! I often am surprised by the newest methods that have been proven to be successful in giving out birds the best possible lives.

You've received excellent advice, so it's important to consider it as you take care of your little ones.

After quarantine, slowly introducing the two budgies will be better for their long term relationship, too. When the time comes, be sure to read this link:
https://talkbudgies.com/new-budgie-ar...o-budgies.html

Here's a good article about quarantine, too: https://talkbudgies.com/new-budgie-ar...o-budgies.html

If you have any questions after reading through everything, please be sure to ask as we'd love to help!

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Hi Lina,

You've been given excellent advice. It's still not too late to quarantine your new budgie. Make sure you wash up after your service the cage. Reading the Stickies and recommended links will give you a good beginning knowledge base to build upon. Best wishes with your budgie .
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Thanks for all your replies! I'll make sure to quarantine the baby right now then.
I am aware that they can get sick, we had a bird when I was younger who had pneumonia and had to go on antibiotics which isn't fun for anyone.
As for the vet, the closest avian vet to where I live is seriously an eight hour drive so I don't thinks that's doable.
I did however not introduce the baby in to Nico's cage, I had just bought a new one so they were both put in to neutral territory as I am aware that birds get territorial.
Thanks for all your advice!
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