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Old 02-09-2017, 11:55 AM
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Hi guys, this is my first post here, just registered today!

In the end of december last year, I got my first budgie, a 12 week (I have my doubts about that, I suspect he is older than what they told me at the pet shop) old male, he is blue and very gorgeous. We started to bond, he would jump up on my hand for millet, although sometimes only with one foot, as he was still a little nervous around me after I had had him for about 6 weeks. By the end of the 6th week, we had a "good" day where he would perch on my finger about three times, even sat there for a good minute before he got tired of it and flew off. He was used to my hand, but still nervous about me, which I understand.

Anyway, things were going good, we were making progress almost every day. But the thing is that I work very long hours, and I just could not stand the thought of him being home alone for 10 hours several times a week (it BROKE my heart), so I decided to get another budgie to keep him company (that was always the plan, but I wanted him to be more tame first. In the end, I had to put his needs before mine, he needed a friend), so the plan had to happen sooner than I had intended, but I didn't realize just how guilty I could feel for having him home alone

A week ago, I got a very cute little budgie friend for him, its (dont know the sex yet) around 7 weeks old now. It instantly jumped on my hand for millet and apples, etc. and I could move my hand around the cage no problem. It's so friendly and curious, just precious <3

My first budgie has started to act up so much! He screeches even more than usual (live in an apartment, so not ideal but what can you do), he even tries to bite me. Not a fast aggressive bite, but he will start to nibble on my finger when I feed them, and slowly pinch harder and harder until it starts to hurt, and he gets a reaction out of me. This has been going on for about four days now. He is also a lot more scared of me now than before, he flies away if I try to get close to him, we were past that stage before I got the second budgie.

The two budgies seem to be getting along, they will preen each other and sleep next to each other ( always close to each other all day), but he will also nip at the baby budgie when they are eating. They seem to play, but they also seem to be a little irritated with each other sometimes..?

SOOO (sorry about the long post) my questions are:

1) Why is my first budgie biting me? Is he testing the boundaries? Or is he angry with me all of a sudden? He never did this before..
2) I dont really enjoy them so much, because all they do is screech screech, they are SO cute to look at, but right now I dont really know what to do with them.. I mostly just watch them or feed them millet or fruits, but they are not interested in anything else (was expected) - any chance this might change with time?
3) Are my budgies getting to know each other, or are they actually stressed out by each other?

Would appreciate your input, new budgie owner here, and just want us all to be one happy family . They are SO cute and adorable, but right now, they are just...there. So noisy and so uninterested in me

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Old 02-09-2017, 12:37 PM
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Welcome to the forums and the ever exciting world of budgie ownership!
You have certainly come to the right place as you will find all you need to know on budgie care here.
The information on the several articles and sticky threads at the top of each section of the forums will be extremely useful as you become more familiar with the species.

I'm sorry you are currently having problems with your budgies.
First of all when you got your second budgie, you should have followed quarantine procedures in order to avoid a potential illness carried by the new bird to be spread to your other budgie: https://talkbudgies.com/new-budgie-ar...necessary.html

Simply sticking the new budgie onto the other budgies cage is also not advisable because you will be running higher chances of the budgies not getting the best of starts and of fights to be triggered (the older budgie may not like the invasion on his territory and to retaliate as a consequence).
Check this link for detailed information: https://talkbudgies.com/new-budgie-ar...o-budgies.html

Your older budgie's behaviour is likely coming from the recent and very abrupt changes on his environment.
Even though the budgies have had direct contact with each other, it would still be good to follow quarantine and afterwards having both cages close by in the room and allowing the budgies to meet again be properly introduced in a gradual manner.

It's also normal for your older budgie to be more skittish, you have had him for a short period of time and the bond established wasn't really strong nor solidified, and now with the rushed introduction of a potential friend of the same species, it's only natural for him to want to bond more closely to that friend instead of you, the biting can also come from the early introduction of a new budgie into his territory.
If you were to give at the very least a few more good months (6 months) to develop the bond, the chances for setback in the trust and bond would have been reduced.
Regarding the biting, you can get some clues by watching the context in which they happen. Watching your budgie's body language and respecting the safe boundaries set by him will also keep you from being bitten.
Using positive reinforcement techniques where good behaviour is rewarded will be a good option to tackle the biting.
https://talkbudgies.com/taming-bondin...-behavior.html

https://talkbudgies.com/taming-bondin...-training.html

As for the "noise", budgies will sing, chatter, screech, etc. It's in their nature to be chatty. If the noise done by two budgies is difficult to handle, then you can get some earplugs: https://talkbudgies.com/articles-gene...them-sing.html
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aluz has given you excellent advice.
I'd recommend you also take a look at this thread:
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If you post pictures of the two budgies, we may be able to give you a better estimate of the older one's age.

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Budgies will nearly always be more interested in another budgie over a human.
And the things they do are natural bird things. Chatter to one another, preen, eat, jump around the cage, from perch to perch. If you want a bird that is *interested* in you, you have to put a load of work in. You need to work on strong bonds with them and prove you and trustworthy for them to want to trust you.
You have to do things (once the bond is formed) that interests the birds. They are curious, so if you are playing with one of their toys and they have trust in you, they would come over and see what it was you were playing with.
You have to have earned this trust and then you have to put time and effort into doing things that they want to do.

As for the noise- it's either something you can stand or you can't. You need to find a way to accept it because it's not going to stop any time soon!
I share a room with 12 budgies and I can happily sit in the room with them the whole day and not be bothered at all by the noise.
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Hi there and to the forums!

It's great to have you here with us, you've come to a great place to learn even more about budgies!

You've been given great advice and resources. Since you got the second budgie to be a friend to the first, it's great that they are getting along well, despite their sudden introduction to each other. It's to be expected that they don't look to you much for amusement since they have each other, although it's possible to get them more used to you if you are able to spend more time with them every day.

Be sure to read through the forum's many articles and "stickies" (threads "stuck" to the top of each subforum for easy reference) to ensure that you're up to date on the very best of budgie care practices!

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...I share a room with 12 budgies and I can happily sit in the room with them the whole day and not be bothered at all by the noise.
My flock of 9's chatter has become "white noise" to me.

My saying is "A happy budgie is a noisy budgie."
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