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Old 03-07-2017, 09:23 PM
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Quick back story : we came upon owing these budgies quite by accident so have no experience. They said they are about a year old... :s

Firstly I am having a problem with gender. I am almost 100% positive one is a female. But the other I am not sure. The little white one is very sweet. She constantly wants to snuggle up to and be around the yellow one. * which is larger and the one I cannot gender classify * .
We have had them for 3 days and in the last day the yellow one has become increasingly aggressive. Pushing the smaller gal to the floor of cage and not letting her eat. I have placed more food options in there to ensure that she does have the opportunity to eat. The previous owners also had a mirror in there which I removed this evening thinking maybe there was some kind of issue. * the yellow one would perch on top of it constantly and not let the white one on * I feel horrible for the little white girl she is so sweet!!! Sorry the pic s aren't the best...I don't want to be too invasive to them since they have still new to us

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Old 03-08-2017, 12:43 AM
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I think your budgie (yellow) is female... But I'm not sure.
Females can be aggressive to each other; you may need to seperate them. My girls are fine with each other, they have an occasional fight, but I don't feel the need to separate them.
How big is your cage? You need a big cage for two budgies, especially two females.
Is this the cage you have?: https://www.amazon.com/Prevue-Hendry...iple+roof+cage
If so, it is too small.
This is the cage I have :
https://www.amazon.com/Petco-Designe...tco+gable+cage
This is also a good option:
https://www.amazon.com/Giantex-Parro...ex+flight+cage
Again, you may need to separate them. The white one can get seriously injured.\
Off topic: You might want to replace the dowel perches. Use natural wood perches instead, such as these two, which I have:
https://www.petco.com/shop/en/petcost...hardwood-perch
https://www.petco.com/shop/en/petcost...ural-fir-perch
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Old 03-08-2017, 05:46 AM
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I can't see the cere of the white budgie well enough to determine gender. If the cere is a transclucent pinkish/purple color then it is a male.
The greenish-yellow budgie is definitely a female which is evident from the whitish-tan colored cere

You need to separate the two budgies in individual cages immediately.
It is both physically and emotionally damaging for the white budgie to be bullied on an ongoing basis.
Additionally, you cannot take the risk of the greenish-yellow budgie seriously injuring or killing the white one which is quite likely given what you've written.

The very minimum recommended size cage for one budgie is 18"x18"x18 but bigger is always better.

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Thanks for the advice!!!
Sorry I didn't follow the photo guidelines I was in such a rush to get some answers

The cage we got was given with the birds. I immediately started looking for a bigger cage, thinking this one was too small. We have ordered a 61" large cage. Maybe overkill but I want the wee things to be happy !!
I am also in the process of getting new perches that aren't dowels. As I read the dowels aren't good for their feet.
The yellow gal is being such a bully so much so i was considering taking her back to a pet store... :s I know this may sound terrible to you guys but I am running out of options. The little white one is starting to act very skittish.
Also I have a 4 year old daughter and she loves them but I would hate her to see a NASTY fight where one gets injured or worse.
I was wondering if it would maybe be good to go and get what can be definitely classified a male. And keep the white one with a male.....
I am a complete newbie at this and although I have been reading up everyday I figured you all will have much better advice for me.




I hope this helps/works ha




This is the aggressive one. Called the pervious owners today and they told me while they had them the WHITE one was actually the aggressor. Wondering if the move and stress caused a dominance/power shift...?

Also they look really young...van anyone give an approx age ?

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Hi, Runningoutofopt! Welcome to TB . Don/t be so hard on yellow one, she is going through molt now. They are very nervous during that period. If it is possible for you keep them both in separate cages. I had problem with my two girls, they are now in separate cages with close monitored time together when out of cage. Good luck.

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I am falling in love with my wee things (I was never a *bird person*) so I don't want to replace either one.
Today they have been very sweet together. Perching next to each other and cleaning each other. They are also much more relaxed today, been quite talkative which they haven't been since we got them. Our new cage should be here in about 4 days.
I've been reading that I should make sure there is double of everything. ** multiple food dishes, water dishes. I also put a small plate of fruit in daily just in case they want** Also in the new cage I've been reading that making sure both birds have access to equal standing perches. I.e one bird doesn't aquire a position that is more desirable than any others. 2 swings etc etc
Is this something I should be really diligent with ?

..scratch last post yellow is still iffy. The white ( Minty) keeps trying to make good though. When they tiff she seems to want to suck up to the yellow one. So confused... hahha
Sorry I am posting like a fiend on here

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Please read through the forum stickies that Faerybee provided you with in the thread already.

You will find a lot of information that will help you out.

Fruit should be offered once a week, not daily. Offer your budgies safe foods like lettuce etc.
As your birds have been fighting, you should make sure there is two of everything in the cage to cut down on the chances of them fighting.
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Both budgies are female.

They may simply be trying to adjust to their new environment and the yellow-green one is making her dominance known to the other. This is normal and as long as it is not overly aggressive to the point where the white one is unable to eat or perch then things will settle down when you have the larger cage.

Yes, it is important you have a minimum of two swings in the cage at the same height and double up on the food and water dishes, etc. This will help prevent bickering, although there is bound to be a bit now and then.

Think siblings
I have two beautiful females in one cage and most of the time they are very sweet with one another...
unless when occasionally one wants the swing the other is perched on, or decides that particular food bowl is better, or...

Kind of like little kids.

Vegetables are better for your budgies than fruit, so take a look at the Safe Foods List and the links below.
Fruit is best used as a treat only once or twice a week due to the high sugar content.

https://talkbudgies.com/articles-diet...ur-budgie.html

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Hi there and to the forums!

Your girls are gorgeous, I hope that with two of everything and a few more days to settle in they come to an agreement If not, separating them is best, and you can still keep their cages in the same room and even give them out of cage time together if they can handle it! Continue to keep an eye on them and let us know!

It's great to have you on the forums and you've been given great advice so far!

Also, I couldn't help but notice that you have sandpaper perch covers on the perches! These are terrible for budgie feet as they are abrasive and really don't keep the nails trim. They can cause sores on budgie feet and lead to a condition called bumblefoot, and if they ingest the sand it can have effects on their health, too. Having a wide range of varied perches (natural wood are best) in varying sizes and textures is the best way to keep budgie feet healthy and the nails naturally trimmed

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