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Old 03-25-2017, 10:31 AM
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So as I get to know my birds better I have been picking up on their behaviors and relationships amongst themselves more. Camellia is the princess of the cage, she is constantly playing with toys, Blueberry, and Lime. Blueberry is the pretty boy, he enjoys preening himself and Camellia and although he does enjoy the other toys and plays with them he seems to like checking himself out in the mirror more than the others. Lime is the heck-raiser, he sings raucously at any point in the day, goes to town on the toys with a gusto the other birds don't have, and for whatever reason enjoys hanging from the top of the cage and singing. The three mentioned above like each other and will preen together, eat together, play together, and sleep together as well as generally don't scream.

My fourth bird, Lemon, is the one I'm a little worried about. She preens herself, plays with the toys, sings, and eats just fine. But she doesn't seem to get along with the others. She sleeps on her own perch, eats by herself, does not preen any of the other birds or allow them to preen her, and screams any time the others come near 75% of the time as well as going to them when they are playing or doing whatever and just screaming at them till they go somewhere else (as pictured in the picture below. She flew on top of the mirror and just started screaming for almost a solid minute till the others moved away.)

Should I be worried? She doesn't physically fight with any of them or anything. She just screams at them and avoids as much contact as possible. I got them all from the same place at the same time too. They aren't used to me yet beyond not being worried about me outside of their cage (I sit at the desk less than 2 feet from them for several hours a day). Does anybody have any advice they could give me?
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Old 03-25-2017, 11:25 AM
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How large is the cage you have the four budgies in at this time?

The very minimum recommended size for four budgies is
Minimum size for 4 budgies-----34" Long x18" Wide x 25" High
Volume = 15,300" cubic inches

However, remember that bigger is always better. The more room each budgie has for him/herself, generally the happier they are.

I'd suggest removing all mirrors from the cage as some budgies become obsessed with their own reflection and can become aggressive and territorial over those types of toys.

Do you have multiple food and water dishes in the cage?

Some budgies are much less "social" than others.
It may be that Lemon is trying to show the others that she is the one in charge of the cage (exhibiting her dominance) or it may simply be that she would prefer not to have to share "her" things with any other budgies.

If the cage is large enough and you have multiple swings, food and water dishes, etc. then I'd remove the mirrored toys and observe the behavior for a few more days.
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Lemon may need some extra time to adjust to the latest changes and to find her place on the recently created flock. While you got your budgies from the place, Lemon may not have been acquainted nor close to Camellia, Blueberry and Lime while at the store.
You mentioned on your introductory thread that you got your flock a bit over a week ago. At this point they are all still adjusting to their new home and family.
The fact that they are all exploring the cage and starting to play with their toys is great.
As for Lemon, unless she is showing clear signs of being stressed and uncomfortable by her flockmates and this in itself is negatively impacting her mental welfare, then you won't need to take a more radical approach to the situation (by housing Lemon on a separate cage).

Keep on observing the behaviour and interactions between your budgies while having in mind the real possibility of having to separate them later on.
Depending on how things progress with Lemon, on whether there is mutual acceptance from her and the rest of the flock, there are a few different scenarios that can come into play. I will proceed with a couple examples that would demand separate housing arrangements.

For example, Lemon can be completely ignored by the rest of your flock and in the process your two boys can focus more of their attention on Camellia and as they grow and mature, this could lead to trouble and fights for the female's affection. Another less than desirable scenario would also be for one or more of your budgies to gang up on the odd one out, Lemon.

As time goes by, you will have a much better understanding on your budgies' personalities and on how they function as a flock.
Depending on the developed bonds, you could also pre-emptively house each pair in a different cage in order to avoid future problems when they first go into breeding condition.

Also mirrors/mirrored toys can do more harm then good, this is especially the case when a given budgie develops an unhealthy attachment to the reflection on the mirror.

The information on this link may be of use: https://talkbudgies.com/articles-gene...en-flocks.html
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Thank you for the answers! The cage they are in is a 36x18x24 cage that I bought specifically because it said it was good for up to 4 budgies but it is only temporary as I am building a large indoor aviary to put them in. I have 2 food and 2 water dishes in the cage that I put in as soon as I realized Lemon didn't want to share her food dish.

I'll remove the mirrors asap and see if that helps.

As I post this Lemon is sitting by herself on a perch on the opposite side of the cage from the other 3 who are playing with a shred-able toy.
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Is the 36" the height or the width of the cage? It makes a difference in terms of how much space the birds feel that they have. They "measure" their space horizontally, not vertically.
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Everyone else has given you a lot of great advice on cage sizes etc.

I would get anther two food pots, so that they can all eat at the same time and no one has to share. With my birds, I often try and give them a couple of extra pots of food so that they have more options and it cuts down on anyone being upset.

Do you have a few perch options at the top of the cage? Budgies naturally want to be as high as they can be, so if she's sitting on a perch that the others want to be on, they will bicker about it. Try and get two or three perches at the same height.

As you have found out from observation, each bird has it's own personality and will behave differently. My girl Sage has always preferred her own company. She used to share a cage with Jay and they got on well preening and feeding etc. but once they went to sharing a cage with others Jay moved on and Sage is content to sit by herself. She comes out as she wants to and socialises how she pleases.
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