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Old 06-13-2017, 07:01 AM
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I'm sorry for not updating for such a long time due to personal reasons. I asked my mother to do the routine thing while I was gone, but I cannot be sure how much of it she actually did.. I'm afraid she took a few steps back from 'progress', but hopefully damage can be reversed.

Now, I'm sorry for not reading every link you've sent me-I promise I've read every other, really, I was just so excited about the lettuce thing at the time that I quickly read the reply and all the links I thought were important, and as I wasn't gonna go outside for some time, I didn't think it'd be a must at that point.

I've got 20-25euros right now. Not much, but I could buy some new furniture for the cage.. or maybe even save up for a new cage?(waiting for suggestions on what I should buy)

Again with the tail shivering..I really don't think he's okay..I might just be paranoid for no reason again..Also his tail's feathers seem wrong, I managed to get another video of the tail.. (sorry for my shaking and the loud noises at the start. My cat came in the room (because I didn't comepletely close the door) and I was trying to push him out while still recording..) And sorry for the quality of the video, I don't know what happened with that..
Is this normal?? - YouTube
So a new problem has arrived with my mother's inconsistant covering.. Jack's sleeping routines are all messed up. I constantly hear him making that 'beak grinding' mid day (It's quietly heard in the video aswell), he just seems sleepy.. and he looks to be comepletely awake at night, quietly making noise at 1am.. (I have summer school, alright? I had to study than.. (Don't tell me that's way too personal aswell.. ;-; )) How can I fix this? I've been home for a few days, but this doesn't seem to get better.
I'm not yet allowed to replace the tv with the cage..-But I was able to put the cage on the drawer next to the one with the tv.. It only has one wall supporting the cage, but at least he's not on the ground..
All the classical music CDs and cassettes are barely an hour long though, so unless I put something else on, it wont last all day..
Oh, and he was not taking a drink, he was eating..But I've never given him a bath seeing as I don't have one and we can't just take him to the sink or something..
I did put a little 'dish' of water on the bottom there, but he really just does not like going down there..
I put some magazines to support the cage so it wouldn't shake so much..Problem solved I guess? But I really need a new cage..
I won't tinker with the ''toys'' for now as I'm afraid i'd break them, but that will take place at some point.. the ladder broke, so that's gone..
Welp, I'll continue doing the things I did before..at least for now..


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Old 06-13-2017, 12:08 PM
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Jack's tail looks to me like he's about to lose one of his longest tail feathers, but the movement seems fine to me. Niko moves his tail that much when he breathes sometimes so I think you're fine. Tail bobbing is much more pronounced from what I've seen.
About the bathing- I haven't had much luck getting Niko to bathe in a dish either. Budgies like to stay up high, so that's why Jack doesn't go down to the bottom of the cage much. You could either try making a little shelf out of untreated wood to put a dish for water on higher in the cage or you could try giving him spray baths. Another option is to try putting wet romaine leaves in the dish instead of just water.
Do you have a radio? It doesn't necessarily have to be classical music playing- any sort of noise will be good for him.
Covering Jack every night at the same time again should get him back on a good schedule. Also, budgies take naps, just because he's sleeping at noon doesn't mean he's necessarily not getting enough sleep.
I think I would probably buy new perches for Jack first, then save up for a new cage, but other more experienced people may have another opinion.
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Hi Ari
Don't worry about the steps backward, just keep plodding on as you were and you'll catch up.

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From the video, I don't see an obvious tail bob in sync with his breathing, to me, it just looked as though he was anxious, 'it's gone all quiet and she's pointing that camera at me, what's going on here?!' I'm assuming he doesn't have any other symptoms. If in doubt, it's always best to see a vet but I think that would not be a possibility for you right now, so try not to worry.
No, his tail doesn't look right but I think he's just bent a tail feather. Maybe he injured it in a panic fly around the cage - budgies sometimes do this during night frights. Just leave it alone and let it moult out naturally.

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Budgies often beak grind during daytime naps, that's fine.
As for his routine, you just need to think your routine through and plan ahead.
Think about the times you wake up (week day & week end). Budgies need a 10-12hr stretch of sleep a night. So, count back 10hrs to find the time that you need to have covered up Jack by. Once Jack is covered up, try to keep the room relatively quiet (i.e. TV only on low, you can still be doing school work). It might take a few days to get back into a routine but you'll get there.

Just keep offering a shallow dish of water every few days or so, he might decide one day to take a look. The wet leaves idea is definitely worth a try.
The radio or TV on low volume, is just as good as CDs/cassettes.

With your euros, I would try to find a natural perch swing, similar to this (though I'd remove the rope).
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Trixie-Natu...+swing+natural
Then save the rest towards a new cage.

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Old 07-15-2017, 11:16 AM
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Summer is a surprising busy time for me, so I'm unfortunately away alot.

I can't order that swing from amazon since they can't ship it here, so I've been trying to look around some pet shops to find one as close as possible.
I've failed to find one that'd be made of natural wood, but I will keep looking.
All I've been able to find are those refined ones, exactly like those 2 perches.. (Excuse my english, I can't quite find the right words to use) I've seen a lot of items made by 'Trixie' be sold in the shops near me. I'm quite surprised I haven't found anything.. My mother is willing to help me a bit (with money, she has also helped me search some places), but she says we need to wait a month or so until she gets some money.

I did manage to find some perches that might work though!. I didn't buy them as I'm still looking around for that swing.. Do the perches have to be all different? I mean in shape.

I was able to get my sister interested in learning, after trying to explain how much harm she has done. Now she feels quite guilty about it and says that she's willing to learn. I guess she has let me become like a 'co-owner' or something,so at least I'm that much closer to being in control.
I've given her some reading material to go through, including those stickies, but she says that it's too 'boring' for her.

So now that 'game' idea would come in.. I don't know how to construct something like that though.
A friend suggested just maybe telling her like some mini facts everyday, but I really don't think that's what you meant when you mentioned that.
I could learn more things aswell when searching for new info.

(It's a bit too late to answer this, but no. I cannot go to woodwork classes. They exist, but I'm not allowed to. I might just be in a strange school, but girls typically have sewing and so on while boys get 'computer programming' and '*crafting things out of wood* or other materials' classes as side classes.

I offered Jack some carrots, strawberries and some wild strawberries, but this time I put them inside he's current seed dish and he tried it. I'm not sure if he tried any strawberries, but he definitely liked the carrot.

I tried making that shelf for him, but since I'm really bad with wood and no one in our family really is experienced with such things, the plan of course failed as I accidentally broke the wood.
I don't have enough good wood at the moment and I should have looked at the DIY section.
When I manage to get more wood I'll do more research next time, but if that fails then could I just buy a shelf? Or maybe I could just start getting new furniture already and have separate dish things for them? That would definantly cost a lot and I'm thinking ahead of myself again, but getting usable wood is quite difficult for me as we don't have a car and usable forests are far away.
Unless I could make one out of branches, I don't think that can happen any time soon. (Maybe I'm just understanding things wrong again.)
I'll get at least 1 natural wood perch tomorrow, natural wood things are surprisingly expensive.
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It's a shame that you can't get that swing, I was thinking that it would a natural perch and a toy in one item, but never mind.

'Do the perches have to be all different? I mean in shape.'
No, but if possible, try to choose perches with slightly different diameters.

'I was able to get my sister interested in learning,.... So now that 'game' idea would come in.. A friend suggested just maybe telling her like some mini facts everyday, but I really don't think that's what you meant when you mentioned that. I could learn more things aswell when searching for new info.'
Perhaps just read through the stickies together - Choose a page each and have one of you 'test' the other; or if she doesn't like being tested, then just ask her to test you - she'll also be learning herself in the process (sometimes you have to be a bit sneaky ).
Show her the blinking game, share your delight when Jack tries something new, let her see the benefits of your changes and she'll be more likely to follow them too.

It's fantastic that Jack is also eating carrot!

'I'll get at least 1 natural wood perch tomorrow, natural wood things are surprisingly expensive.'
That's great news. Yes, annoying isn't it! Don't be disheartened if he avoids it - it might take a day or two for him to summon the courage to investigate the scary new thing in the cage
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