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Hey guys. So I'm running into an issue here. I don't know what to do. I have 4 parakeets. Two females and two males. The males are starting to become extremely aggressive towards each other and I have no idea why. Their cage is open 24/7. They hardly are in their cage until it's time for sleep. But during the day maybe once or twice they will start to fight. They will fly at each other and roll around the floor fighting. One time one was pinning the other down on the floor. There has never been any blood drawn or injuries. They have never acted like this before and i've had them for a year. Right now at this moment they are actually playing with each other and hanging out. What causes this behavior? I have noticed one of the boys is mating with his toy about 5 times a day. How can I get these boys to settle down? They have never acted like this before.

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Remove the toy.
Limit their daylight hours to 8 to 10 hours
Limit high protein foods
Rearrange the cage layout

Flying at each other and rolling around the floor together is aggression more than normal squabbling.
Do you have another cage that you can use to split them up?
Is the hormonal ‘toy mater’ the main instigator, or are they both equally attacking the other?
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No the other boy doesn't care about that toy at all. I'm not entirely sure what's causing the issues of fighting. But it seems like the boy who is mating with the toy is also trying to flirt with the female that is not bonded to him. And I'm guessing the male who is bonded to her is getting upset about it. I don't know why he's starting to chase after this female when he is already bonded to another. They feed and groom each other so I don't know why he wants the other female all of a sudden. I don't have another large cage. I have a small cage I use to travel in when I take them to the vets and such.

Also like I said they are only in their cage when they sleep. They have their own room. So they are always outside of the cage.

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You are going to have to separate the males.

If that means buying large cages and caging them when you are not around then that is what it is going to take.

If you don't separate them, one of the budgies will end up severely injuring or killing the other in time.

Not all budgies get along and once they fight to the point of pining each other down, you must take action right away.
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I agree with Faerybee.
Ideally you’ll need two large cages, so that you can rotate their unsupervised out of cage time.

Whilst sourcing cages, because you have a completely bird safe room, I would suggest you keep ‘Mr Flirtypants’ confined in the main cage where he would have more space, either alone or together with his female (if you’re sure that he wouldn’t take his frustration out on her).
The other 2 (or 3) free in your bird safe room, and then you need to consider where they could settle down for the night. Do they have a particular perch or swing that they sleep on? Could you fit sleeping swings in the travel cage and put the travel cage on top of the main cage? You could attach a perch (or perches) to the outside of the main cage, at the height that they would normally sleep.
However, you work it, it’s going to be confusing for them at first.

Once you have two main cages, consider a room reshuffle and rotate their out of cage time. I would not attempt any joint out of cage time for at least a few weeks: They need to feel at home in the new cage set ups first, so that you have an easier time returning them to their own cages. If you limit their daylight hours, then hopefully Mr Flirty’s hormones will settle down too.

I guess you’re feeling really disappointed. Allowing your bird’s to have cages open 24/7 in a safe room is a great ideal, unfortunately it just isn’t working well with this bunch. Best of luck.
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What causes them to start acting like this out of no where? They have never had any issues for almost a whole year. They were even best friends.
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Sometimes there is no obvious reason, but common triggers are sexual maturity, a hen coming into condition, mating season suggested by long days, a stable environment and plentiful high protein food. Even simple moulting can make them less tolerant. Unfortunately, such behaviour once started can be very difficult to change.
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The best advice for this situation is mentioned in posts above.

I know you're curious as to the "why" it's happening, but most important is to take action now, and get another cage to separate, and work out a routine of out of cage time separately.

Sometimes our animals do things that don't always make it convenient for us, and don't allow us to have a routine which we'd prefer, as I know that first hand with mine. Still, being living sentient creatures under our care, it is ultimately our responsibility to find and implement a solution that we can manage, and that is also good for the animals.

Perhaps your birds are now coming into maturity or breeding condition. You can rearrange the cage, avoid dark cozy hiding spots, give more hours of darkness, etc. but you might just happen to have individuals who aren't going to get along anymore period. We can only guess based on the information. Best of luck!

** looks like JRS was posting above at same time
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When you say give more hours of darkness. Do you mean like putting a blanket over their cage for a few hours?
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Yes, covering the cage earlier than dusk and/or removing it later than sunrise, so that they have a maximum daylight of 10hours.
Or closing thick curtains/blinds.
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