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Old 11-22-2017, 09:09 AM
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Thank you everyone.. Kiwi made it through the night, we had his cage nice and cozy for him, he's chirped and preened some.. he ate and ate and ate last night. Poor little guy.. he's still a bit puffed up this morning but nothing like he was yesterday, so hopefully he is on the mend..

I hate leaving him, and not being able to keep the extra heat sources going but we are leaving the heat on as usual.. the lady at the bird shop told me to just leave him 3/4 covered with a blanket so he'd feel protected and just the natural rythm of daylight would be enough for him for a couple of days to rest. .. hope so... he's used to a timed light coming on and off in the big aviary.

About Apple.. Poor guy, boy is he a feisty little thing. all he wants is a girlfriend LOL.. so my question about him is.. Obviously putting him in that cage with the other two is OUT..but does he just live alone in a cage forever at this point or should we consider finding him his own mate? I mean heck, it isn't like we don't have cage space. he's in a huge cage all by himself now sulking while staring at Mozie and Ollie live it up in their palace !

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Old 11-22-2017, 11:06 AM
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I think you could find Apple a mate. You would need to quarantine a new bird for a time and then introduce her slowly to Apple, but it sounds like it could be a good idea.

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I think you could find Apple a mate. You would need to quarantine a new bird for a time and then introduce her slowly to Apple, but it sounds like it could be a good idea.

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You must be VERY careful if you decide to try to get a female friend for Apple.
He has already shown vicious aggressive tendencies and there is no guarantee that won't happen again - even with a female bird.

So, should you decide to get another budgie, you are going to need to quarantine for the proper amount of time and then introduce the new bird to Apple very slowly in a controlled and supervised neutral territory environment several times before you ever try putting them in the same cage together.

Even then, you need to be prepared that you may end up having to house the new budgie separately on a permanent basis as well should Apple decide to become overly aggressive with that bird.

I'd think long and hard before deciding to add yet another budgie into the mix.
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Old 11-25-2017, 09:20 AM
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UPDATE.. I made it through without having a panic attack.. Left Kiwi with tons of food and some extra moulting food and water with ACV.. put him on a table where I knew the sunlight would warm him up since I couldn't leave extra heating sources plugged in and parted ways with my fluffed up battered buddy .. came home to a chirpy, no longer fluffed budgie that came hopping over to me clinging to the cage bobbing his head like he was so happy to see me.. I couldn't BELIEVE how well he was.. I do believe he is going to be JUST FINE....Ollie and Mozie are happy, apple.. he seems fine just kinda lost over there in that giant cage by himself.. Now to just figure out a cage configuration for my den that we can all live with.. is a bit crowded in here!... Thanks for all your advice.
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I'm glad to hear Kiwi came through the ordeal and that you survived without a panic attack.

Please be sure to let us know how things progress.

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Update on my peeps.. Mozie and Ollie are happy as can be in the giant aviary alone.


Kiwi, has made an amazing comeback.. He seems SO happy, playing all the time and talking.. I have a new cage on the way that will be more than ample for him.. 18x18x30.. brand new and safe, ditched the fantasy of finding a beautiful one instead.

Apple.. well, he seems totally neurotic and ticked off.. sometimes he seems content...but spends the majority of the time clinging to the side of the cage facing the big aviary yelling at it and neurotically flying back and forth over and over... Is he miserable being in the cage alone? ..

I need someone to explain to me so that I feel good about this, these birds are all wild birds, .. they love chattering to me, I do believe they each know their names. .. but they have all been in one aviary for nearly 3 years. now the four are in the same room but 3 cages. I do think Kiwi, the older one that was attacked is breathing a sigh of relief! as mentioned up there, now that he has recovered from his near death experience he seems the happiest I've frankly ever seen him.. chattering at himself in the mirror, ringing bells, responding to me and chattering with the the others. ..But Apple.. will he be ok alone? Is being in the same room with other birds enough socialization for him or should we try to find him a mate. My husband keeps saying he's fine..but I get a totally different vibe from Apple than I do from kiwi.
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Since Apple has shown such aggressive and violent tendencies, it is extremely risky to put any other budgie in with him.

I would suggest you consider moving his cage into a different room and spend one-on-one time with him there.
He may adjust better if he isn't able to see the other birds
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Since Apple has shown such aggressive and violent tendencies, it is extremely risky to allow him to interact with any of the other budgies.
You've already indicated that in addition to attacking Kiwi, Apple pined Ollie down in the past and Mozie seemed somewhat stressed by his overly aggressive courtship efforts.

I would suggest you consider moving Apple's cage into a different room and spend one-on-one time with him there.
He may adjust better if he isn't able to see the other birds.

To reiterate what I said in my previous post on this thread:

You must be VERY careful if you decide to try to get a female friend for Apple.
He has already shown vicious aggressive tendencies with more than one budgie and there is no guarantee that won't happen again - even with a female bird.

So, should you decide to get another budgie, you are going to need to quarantine for the proper amount of time and then introduce the new bird to Apple very slowly in a controlled and supervised neutral territory environment several times before you ever try putting them in the same cage together.

Even then, you need to be prepared that you may end up having to house the new budgie separately on a permanent basis as well should Apple decide to become overly aggressive with that bird.

I'd think long and hard before deciding to add yet another budgie into the mix.
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I wouldn't even consider a new bird friend for an aggressive bird.

You have to allow time to adjust to new changes and if after a sufficient amount of time, you can try changing things to see if they work.
Getting another bird will most likely make all your problems worse, not better.

Just recently I had one of my birds acting a little dominant over another when she has never shown any behaviour like it before. But instantly, she was caged away from the bird she was upsetting to prevent anything more from happening.

When it comes to birds, the overall happiness of all the birds has to be considered, including any birds you are thinking of adding. Simply put- I don't think it's worth the risk.
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I definitely agree with the above. If you had a person who had injured others, the last thing you would do is put another person in with them, especially in an enclosed space. The same thing goes for animals. In this case, I think you need to focus on getting to know Apple as a single bird since I wouldn't ever consider putting him with another budgie.

It's not worth the potential mishaps and stress on you and on the rest of the flock.
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