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I have 4 budgies. It seems like one of the budgie is being picked on. She is a female. Rest all of them are male. The moment she comes close to one of them they start pecking her. Her feathers on the top of her head look a bit ruly now. I have intervened many times to stop them from doing this. But it seems like she is always being picked on.

I am concerned about her. Incidentally she is the smallest of all 4 budgies, may be thatís why they like to bully her. I think I should return her and get another male budgie which can bond properly.

I need advice. I am attaching her pic. She is the one closest to the camera
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The photograph isnít clear enough to confirm the genders of the 4 budgies, however,
3 males and 1 female together is more likely to cause conflict than even gender numbers. That in itself is not a reason to return and replace your female as there are other problems:
The cage looks to be too small to house 4 budgies, what are itís dimensions?
Please remove the huts/nests, budgies do not need these to sleep in and they are likely to cause hormonal issues, especially with females.
Smooth wooden dowels can lead to foot problems, itís best to replace these with natural perches and mixed diameters to help excercise the feet and vary pressure points.
The cage appears to be a bit lacking in things to amuse your birds Ö you know how children can start misbehaving when bored?!

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Thanks for the prompt response.

I agree, the cage looks to be small for 4 budgies.

1 budgie is temporarily staying with our budgies as he belongs to my sister as she is out of town. So it would be 3 budgies when it leaves.

Regarding perches, they are plastic perches which came with the cage. So I guess, I will look for different natural perches for them.

My budgies like to play with the nests though. They sit on top of them and try to peck it.

I will remove them if you say so. There was a wooden swing inside the cage, but it was getting very crowded with a lot of toys, thats why I removed them.

I will also go through the links you shared. They look to be very helpful.
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Julie gave you excellent information and it is very important to follow the advice given.

It is never a good idea to have three budgies of one gender in a cage with a budgie of the opposite gender.

This forum's purpose is to promote the best practices in care for the health and well-being of budgies.

The smallest size cage one should consider for four budgies would be 34x18x25"
Volume = 15,300" cubic inches
Bigger is always better as long as you ensure the spacing between the bars is no greater than 1/2".

It's important to recognize that many items sold with cages and "for" budgies are not safe for them and should not be used.

This thread gives you information regarding better options for perches.
Plastic dowel type perches as well as wooden dowel perches lead to pressure sores:

https://www.talkbudgies.com/articles-...ure-sores.html

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Please separate the female as the other males will kill her by hitting on head of female. Actually same happened with my friend. Whenever one male hit on females head don't know why others males usually hit until female dies. This is major problem when birds are placed in group in a same cage.

Moreover if a bird in a cage is injured like this then every bird in the cage hits on the injured head until the injured bird died or shifted from cage.

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Thanks for the replies guys. I have removed the nest from the cage and it has made some space. Also, added a toy swing in there and things are looking to be better than before.

I would be returning one budgie to my sister as it's a temporary guest here. Regarding the female budgie, as I read in the links it seems like even pairs seem to be better, I am thinking of returning the female budgie to the store. I can't afford to keep one more budgie in there as I would need to get a bigger cage. The bigger cage wouldn't fit in my car as every month I have to travel and drive for about 4 hours.

Two males seemed to have formed a bond as they feed each other. The blue budgie seems to try courting the other male by head bobbing and then trying to feed it.

I will be looking for wooden perches for these guys. Thanks a lot for your help.
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Also, I have noticed the female budgie behaves a bit strangely sometimes. I was finally able to capture her video:

9 March 2018 - YouTube
I have tried to search regarding this, but couldn't find anything. I am concerned as to if this is normal behavior or not.
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Have you removed the female from the cage with the males yet?

Even if, as you indicate, this is a "temporary" set up, the female needs to be removed into a cage of her own immediately and that has been stressed to you multiple times.

Please ensure you remove the female into an individual cage right away.
The female is stressed from being bullied and her behavior looks normal.
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Have you removed the female from the cage with the males yet?

Even if, as you indicate, this is a "temporary" set up, the female needs to be removed into a cage of her own immediately and that has been stressed to you multiple times.

Please ensure you remove the female into an individual cage right away.
The female is stressed from being bullied and her behavior looks normal.
I understand that. However, I don't have a spare cage with me right now. I will be able to move her to a separate cage only over the weekend.

Is there another alternative in the meantime I arrange a separate cage for her.

Can I just keep her outside then? She is not hand-tamed though and I believe it may cause her even more stress. So I am avoiding that.

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UPDATE: I noticed one male budgie hit her again and I couldn't take it anymore. So I have took her out of the cage and now she is sitting in the living room. Making sure all the doors and windows are closed.

I will keep her separate till I arrange a cage for her.
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