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Old 05-05-2018, 03:52 PM
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Question Aggressive female budgie

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We have 2 budgies, a male (Pepper) and a female (Tweety).

Tweety is pretty aggressive towards him and us, and chases him away from toys, swings and food bowls. But every morning when I open her cage first (they sleep in separate cages), she flies straight to his and waits for him to come out. Then he will feed her and they fly around together. And sometimes when I separate them, she will pace back and forth on a perch like she doesn't want to be away from him.
Does this mean they do like each other? This is her third home, but we have had her for about 11 months now.

She also bites very hard and a lot when she is on someone. But she loves to shred and chew everything, so I don't know if she does this to be mean? I'd like her to be more friendly, but I'm not sure what to do..

Their cage is around 43 inches tall and 31 inches in length. They have plenty of toys, different types of perches and 2 large food bowls. With several hours out of the cage every single day and definitely a lot of attention from everyone 😁

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If she’s aggressive when they’re housed together, your current set up seems perfect for them.
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Lots of time in separets cages is a good idea. Budgies can bite hard as you mention. I once had one like your. Could bite hard enough where it hurt and drew blood. The biting never stopped with that bird.
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Okay, thank you.
Do you know why she gets angry at night when I go to cover her cage? If Pepper is still in there, she will go to him and try to start a fight and bite him. I know she is a little afraid of the sheet. Could that have something to do with it?
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There could be a few things going on here.
Firstly, I’d advise you to remove the coconut hut in that photo - anything that could be seen as a potential nesting site can encourage birds to become more hormonal (& aggression & increased shredding can also be signs of this).

Whilst I think that you’re certainly doing the right thing by putting them in different cages at night, I’m not quite sure how this works - You mention the dimensions of ‘their cage’ (singular), and that they have ‘2 large food bowls’ (is this in each cage? Do both bowls contain the same food?)
Is it perhaps the case that they share ‘the main cage’ in the daytime and you only remove one of them into a separate other cage at night? If so, who gets moved, when (what times from/to are they in this cage and is it covered all that period) and what is there in this other cage? I’m confused as to why Pepper “is still in there” sometimes when you cover her cage.
If you can explain your arrangement in more detail, it could help us get a clearer picture from which to help you.
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There could be a few things going on here.
Firstly, I’d advise you to remove the coconut hut in that photo - anything that could be seen as a potential nesting site can encourage birds to become more hormonal (& aggression & increased shredding can also be signs of this).

Whilst I think that you’re certainly doing the right thing by putting them in different cages at night, I’m not quite sure how this works - You mention the dimensions of ‘their cage’ (singular), and that they have ‘2 large food bowls’ (is this in each cage? Do both bowls contain the same food?)
Is it perhaps the case that they share ‘the main cage’ in the daytime and you only remove one of them into a separate other cage at night? If so, who gets moved, when (what times from/to are they in this cage and is it covered all that period) and what is there in this other cage? I’m confused as to why Pepper “is still in there” sometimes when you cover her cage.
If you can explain your arrangement in more detail, it could help us get a clearer picture from which to help you.
Okay I can remove the coconut, but she has been like this since we first got her. That's why her 2 previous owners didn't want her
She stays in the big cage at night, and he goes into his old cage. But some nights when we try to take him out, he bites us like he wants to stay.
The flight cage is the one they share. His other cage (the small one) has only one food bowl. Same seeds.
I mean I have to start to cover the cage to get him to know it's bedtime and time to go in his own. Their bedtime is 9 PM and I uncover them at 8 AM. Then they will fly to each other and he feeds her every morning :-)
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And all that is in his small cage is a rope perch, 2 wooden perches, his favorite swing and ring toy. With the food and water bowls
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As long as Tweety is okay sharing her cage in the daytime, then what you’re doing is probably the best arrangement.

You could try to make Peppers return to his cage rewarded with a small treat (eg a ball of millet) in the hope that the treat association will mean that he objects to being separated less.
Check out the sticky on positive reinforcement:
https://www.talkbudgies.com/taming-bo...-training.html
Could the two cages be placed right beside each other, with the night cover, covering both the cages together?
When you cover the cages, at the front of the cage try to have the cover raised at little ie not right down to the bottom of the the cage, and see if that helps Tweety feel better.
I think Pepper has just got himself a high maintenance woman .
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As long as Tweety is okay sharing her cage in the daytime, then what you’re doing is probably the best arrangement.

You could try to make Peppers return to his cage rewarded with a small treat (eg a ball of millet) in the hope that the treat association will mean that he objects to being separated less.
Check out the sticky on positive reinforcement:
https://www.talkbudgies.com/taming-bo...-training.html
Could the two cages be placed right beside each other, with the night cover, covering both the cages together?
When you cover the cages, at the front of the cage try to have the cover raised at little ie not right down to the bottom of the the cage, and see if that helps Tweety feel better.
I think Pepper has just got himself a high maintenance woman <img src="https://talkbudgies.com/images/newsmilies/kekekegay.gif" border="0" alt="" title="Giggle" class="inlineimg" />.
Best of luck <img src="https://talkbudgies.com/images/smilies/smile.gif" border="0" alt="" title="Smile" class="inlineimg" />
LOL you're right about that. I will use the millet trick since he likes it a lot.
I do only cover the front a little more than halfway. She is agressive during the day too, like chasing him away from toys and food. Maybe her first owner didn't treat her well ?
And That's a good idea but his old cage is very small, and the other is tall and wide so idk if that would work. Hopefully she'll get used to it on day.. Thanks for the help!
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When one bird is overly aggressive with another, continually chasing it and not allowing it to eat, it is best to separate the two into individual cages on a permanent basis.

It is important you obtain the right size cage for each budgie and I would recommend cages no smaller than 30" x 18" x 18" for each bird.

You can allow the two budgies to have supervised out-of-cage time but it is important for the bullied budgie's health and well-being that he have his own space where he is safe and secure from the aggressive tendencies of the other.
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