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Obsidian 07-06-2019 03:28 PM

Separation, permanent?
 
I've mentioned before about my girls bickering a lot. Since then I have introduced a male into the mix which seemed to help some as the antisocial angel got a reprieve from so much attention.

The last couple weeks the fighting has started back up though and now the male has joined in with the bullying.

It was getting to the point that angel was having a hard time eating, they just never left her in peace.

I went ahead and separated angel today. Everyone is confused and angel doesn't understand why she can't get to the big cage.

She had a nice meal in peace though and is being entertained by me. Even though she is anti social with the other birds, she seems really interested in people. I'm going to work with her, I think she has great potential to be a very sweet, tame bird.

My question is will this separation absolutely need to be permanent or should I try to introduce her back into the flock at some point in time?

Stella and Drew seem pretty content being alone.

Birdmanca 07-06-2019 05:52 PM

Things could be headed in the right way right now. I would leave the housing as it currently is. Angel will not be getting pushed around and you plan to make friends with her. That is better than the 2 birds in the other cage have shown her and you.

Sim 07-06-2019 05:56 PM

I have a similiar situation.
I own three budgies: Sid, Stella (same name as your budgie :XD:) and Celeste. Sid and Stella are a couple, and Celeste is their daughter.

Stella became aggressive to Celeste and her sister shortly after they were weaned, she didn't recognize them as her daughters anymore. And I'm sure it had something to do with them being females, because Stella was instead kind with her son.
I gave Sid and Stella's son and other daughter away, and I kept Celeste. I hoped Stella would have learned to get along with her, but she never did.
So, I had to separate Celeste from her parents and now she has her own cage in another room, and she is really sweet with me and my relatives, and enjoys our company.

Of course, she still tries to reach the other two and interact with them when she has the chance, but Stella's aggressiveness is not going to stop, as just today she bit Celeste's toes.

Perhaps your Stella is like my Stella, she doesn't like to have other females around her, or around her mate.
If so, I would suggest you to keep Angel in a separate cage permanently, she will always miss her own kind, but if you can develop a bond and then spend enough time with her I think she will be fine.

I hope I helped you. :001_smile:

Obsidian 07-06-2019 06:32 PM

Thank you @Sim, I pretty much expected that to be the answer. I originally had just Stella and Angel, Stella was very gregarious and constantly tried to interact with angel. Eventually Angel got sick of it and started bullying Stella.

Stella got to where she was afraid of Angel and started fighting back, she is bigger so she turned bully. She was afraid of Drew at first too, would lash out anytime he got close but he was persistent like boys are.

She still gets a bit perturbed at his in your face attention but seems more receptive now that Angel isn't in the mix.

FaeryBee 07-06-2019 08:13 PM

Keeping Angel separated from the other two is your best option.
If you put her cage in a separate room, that may help with her adjustment.
Be sure you spend time with her on a regular and consistent basis.

Keep in mind that having three (or any odd number) of budgies housed together often ends up with problems. Two will bond and one will be bullied and/or left out.

Now that you have a mixed gender pair housed in the same cage, please ensure you do everything necessary to prevent breeding.

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Obsidian 07-06-2019 08:57 PM

The only room I could possible move her to would be a small dark bedroom so she's stuck hanging out in the living room.

Her cage is right next to the couch so I can sit and talk to her often. I need to do some rearranging so its easier to rest my hand in the cage.
She's pretty mellow about hands but got a bit freaked out from being caught. Guess I have to start all over from square one.


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