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Budgie Breeding Before breeding any species, it is important to learn as much about the animals, their personalities and the best practices to follow for responsible and ethical breeding prior to making the commitment to take on the responsibility.

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Where to start!

Ok- we (my wife and our two kids) live on the island of Koh Samui in Thailand. We have had budgies for about 18 months now, but recently our Burmese housemaid left the cage door open and our two females disappeared into the jungle never to be seen again, leaving two boys behind!

Today a Thai friend of ours turned up at the house with 5 fertile budgie eggs, whose parents had been had by a snake last night. I checked them with a strong light and they all appear to be about 13-15 days into incubation.

Although it's an awesome coincidence, i nearly turned him down flat as we have no knowledge of incubating or rearing anything at all! However, my 5 year old daughter's face made me rethink that idea, as she was heartbroken when our two girls left. So we decided to try and make it into a homeschooling project!

So we brought the eggs inside the house and put them in our upstairs living room, which is a pretty constant 30+ degrees C (seriously -Samui is hot as hell!), and put them in a nesting box with some shredded paper for a nest. We have been carefully turning them every couple of hours and i have a small desk lamp on them (although i'm not sure if they need it at 30C already?)

What we're after is a comprehensive guide of some sort to hatching and rearing these little guys by hand! We have plenty of time and my daughter is so bird crazy it's not even funny! So we are totally prepared to spend a lot of time with them as i gather this is a pretty full time job!!!

My questions are -
1. How warm should they actually be right now? and how warm is too warm?
2. How often do we need to turn them, or is that just for the earlier stages?
3. What do we feed them when they hatch, how often, and with what mechanism?
4. anything else anyone feels we need to know!

Thank you guys in advance for any help offered!

I'm sure you will be seeing a lot of me on here over the next few months!

Pip.


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Old 07-06-2015, 07:27 AM
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Hi and to Talk Budgies!

The idea of trying to incubate the eggs and raise the chicks from day one is a huge undertaking which is commendable but a very difficult (if not impossible) undertaking.

Most breeders would advise you to either dispose of the eggs or foster them to another breeding pair.

If the eggs were away from the mother for over 1/2 hour and were not kept warm enough, the chicks are probably Dead in the Shell (DIS) already.

The eggs need to be kept at a temperature of 100.2 degrees F

The eggs should be carefully turned every hour

The first food a budgie chick gets is crop milk from the mother which contains antibodies you are not going to be able to duplicate in a forumula.

The chicks will initially need to be fed with a crop needle until they learn to eat from a syringe.

Feeding with a crop needle is difficult at best and with a chick that is newly born may be close to impossible unless an individual is extremely knowledgable and experienced in using one. It would be extremely easy to kill the chick. You would need to get instruction from either an Avian Vet or a very experienced breeder.

I would recommend you try to find someone who is currently breeding budgies that can take the eggs and foster them to other pairs.

Fostering Budgie Chicks And Eggs Safely - Cute Little Birdies Aviary

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Thank you for your reply! Well we are gonna give it our best shot and see what happens! It is still the hot season here and today the outdoor temp was about 38C which is over 100F so i'm hoping they will have survived the transition!

I'll keep you updated as we go on - night time temps are around 30C here, so i'm hoping with the warm desk lamp over them as well they may be ok....

I'll be spending my evening learning about crop needles etc tonight! lol

Thank you!

edit- There are only a small handful of vets on the island, no avian ones, and no "breeders" as such, although there must be a few people who have breeding pairs? I'll ask about, at the stage they are at,i dont think it will be long before we find out if they are ok!
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I wish you the best of luck in your endeavor and will be looking forward to the updates!

Hopefully, these links will be helpful to you:

How to Use a Crop Needle

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FwuNJEQCW2g

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=twNYPdd4Wuc
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I too am very interested on how things go, good luck!!
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Good luck! Please keep us posted . I am so sorry about your female birds .
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Oh my days! One hatched already! Seems ok so far, but it's been just about an hour!

OK so what do we feed it, when, how much and how (crop needle i am assuming?)
Bare in mind that we have no access to any of the following:

Avian vet, breeder, pet store with anything that we need!!! So everything has to be home made or jury rigged - i spent some time as a falconer's apprentice when i was growing up, so have some limited experience hand rearing baby birds of prey (not even close i know!)
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Oh my goodness, congratulations. Bear in mind that this journey will be very, very difficult. Best of luck, the chick and his siblings are in my prayers. Hopefully some of our experienced breeders can give you pointers.
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The only advice I can offer you is what I gave you in my previous post.
You are at a definite disadvantage if you have no access to the supplies you need.

Good luck and please let us know how it goes. (When you have time to post, that is!)

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Oh my days! One hatched already! Seems ok so far, but it's been just about an hour!

OK so what do we feed it, when, how much and how (crop needle i am assuming?)
Bare in mind that we have no access to any of the following:

Avian vet, breeder, pet store with anything that we need!!! So everything has to be home made or jury rigged - i spent some time as a falconer's apprentice when i was growing up, so have some limited experience hand rearing baby birds of prey (not even close i know!)
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