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Budgie Breeding Before breeding any species, it is important to learn as much about the animals, their personalities and the best practices to follow for responsible and ethical breeding prior to making the commitment to take on the responsibility.

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I am taking over care of 1 week old budgie babies and need guidance.
My uncle came home from work and found the mother budgie dead at the bottom of the cage with her eyes plucked out and blood everywhere.

i have taken the father and babies to care for them since I have more time to hand rear. The babies are eating every 3 hours or so but cry at least every 15 minutes. Is this normal?

Since the father killed the mother I have separated him from the babies but keep them near each other. When the babies chirp the dad chirps back to them and paces. Sometimes if I don't go check the babies he starts "panicking". Frantically flying and screaming. I know he wants to be with them but I am afraid he will kill them too. Has anyone experienced this situation ? And know if it would be safe to put him with them? When I first got them I gave him a supervised visit with the babies for 2 hours. He did not try to feed them despite crops being empty nor did he sit on them although went in the breeding box and gently pecked them frequently.

Any advice is greatly appreciated.

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Old 07-19-2015, 05:12 PM
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I'm very sorry to hear of this unfortunate situation.

None of our expert breeders are on-line at the present time.
I have flagged this thread and hopefully someone will be logging in soon that can offer you advice.

Please make sure the babies are kept warm.

Budgie Hand Feeding And Weaning Guide - Cute Little Birdies Aviary

We do have another member who is currently successfully raising two chicks that hatched and have no parents.

https://talkbudgies.com/budgie-breedi...o-parents.html
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Fathers won't care for a budgie until it is over 2 weeks of age. The only time I've ever had a mother and father fight, I've separated the two for a few hours, and then put them back together.

But, since he has killed her before the chicks are 2 weeks of age. My best advice is to go ahead and hand rear them, and separate him from the chicks completely where they can't even hear one another. This is for the fathers good as well as the babies.

The way you have it, you're making the babies think that one of the parents is coming back, and they are waiting for them to come back. As it is, you'll be momma and daddy for now on. Also, if you haven't done so already, make sure they are in a warm environment with a good level of humidity. They do tend to ask for momma every hour on the hour until they are 2 weeks of age.

I hope everything goes well for you.

If you know of anyone in your area that has budgies that have babies right now, it's possible to sneak them into the other clutch and the parents won't care, usually.
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I didn't realize it wasn't a good idea to keep them so close but that makes perfect sense!! Maybe that is why they are crying more often.
My 6 year old daughter has already started bonding with the dad so it's going to break her heart but we will need to find him another home. My uncle does not want to keep him and I only have one room that is safe from my cat and dog.
I am up for hand raising the babies. I have my own baby nursling,(human hehe), I need to get up all night for so it doesn't affect my night or day. It has been 2 days with them and hopefully I am doing everything right. I didn't realize about the humidity though. How do I provide that? I have made a homemade brooder with a heating pad on low underneath. (It does fluctuate the temp between 83-95 though).
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Perhaps your uncle will agree to care for the male budgie and help look for a new home for him as well so you can concentrate on raising the chicks.

If you have a humidifier, you can use that in the room where you are keeping the chicks.

If not, you can use a crockpot set on low to help get moisture into the air.
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Hello and welcome to TB!

I can't agree more with the advice given, I wish you all the best in caring for the chicks. I'm so sorry for your loss of the mother!

Please keep us posted!

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Hi there, good luck with the chicks! I guess if your already up for baby they won't be sleep depriving you anymore than you would already be...!

I was just thinking about the fact that it is not unusual for budgies to have a chew on another one that has died, and I have seen they mostly chew around the head. So, perhaps there is a chance the hen died and the male didn't kill her. I think you've done the right thing removing him as obviously they need hand feeding but just thought he may not be the culprit, unless you saw him do it of course.
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Thank you everyone. The chick are strong and growing. I've had them over 4 days now and they are starting to get small fluffy white feathers. One is growing faster then the other. I'm assuming it hatched a couple days after the first but hope it is ok.

How long does it take for the crop to empty?
It seems to never fully empty on either of them. I fear they are getting slow crop. Last night it took 5 hours for the ones crop to go down to about 1/3 capacity. I have also switched to spoon feeding since they seem to get less air that way but are eating a lot more.
Their crop gets about as big as their belly area before they stop on their own. Is this too much? It seem to take longer everyday for it to empty.

Also when they came to me their crop was about 1/8 full of black stuff. The smallest one still has some of this in its crop all they time although more like a speck now. I'm wondering if the dad attempted to feed them after the mom died but gave solid seed and now one is stuck? I've tried warm water and massage. Also tried apple sauce and apple juice mixed with the formula
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I'm getting very worried. The crops barely emptied after 3 hours!!! I have feed some warm 104 degree water and massaged but still full. They eagerly take the water from a spoon so I think they are starving from the crops not emptying.
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Are the babies pooping? get a warm wet cotton bud and gently massage the vent area this will help encouraging them to go. Gently massage the crop area the food has to be the right temperature did you read Cute Little birdies tips?
It is normal for them to eat till they stop don't try to feed them after they don't want any more.
You are doing a great job!
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