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Budgie Breeding Before breeding any species, it is important to learn as much about the animals, their personalities and the best practices to follow for responsible and ethical breeding prior to making the commitment to take on the responsibility.
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Old 07-21-2015, 11:19 PM
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Unhappy Female Attacking Male Question

Okay so this is the first threat post thingy (whatever it's called) I've ever done and I have a question about my birds that doesn't seem to be answered anywhere else on the internet.

I have three parakeets, two males (Jericho and Cairo) and one female (Lightning). Lightning and Jericho have mated and have a batch of eggs together, one has hatched a couple weeks ago and is fairly large already. I've seen a couple babies since then, but I don't think they've survived (only seen the one big one when I peek into the nest box).

Lightning is a dominating female, but since laying the eggs, she's been pretty content and not dominating. She was in a cage alone with Jericho because they're the parents--I say was because I took him out earlier. Today (July 21, 2015), she attacked Jericho not once, but twice. The past couple of days, she's been out of the nest box quite a bit (eating, going to the bathroom, drinking, etc) instead of staying in there like she's been doing.

It's weird that she attacked Jericho because she's been okay with him so far, but today, she attacked him twice. She had him flat on his back and was really trying to cause some serious harm. She's never been this way before. She's several years old (I don't know the exact age but we got her maybe 6-7 years ago?). I moved Jericho from the cage into Cairo's cage (I originally bought a second cage to keep Cairo separate from the mating couple) so that she wouldn't attack him. I know that it's wrong to separate the male because of his role with the babies, but it was the only thing I could think of to do.

So...my questions are:

1) Why would she attack the father of her babies?

2) Is it okay to leave the male and female separate due to the attacks?

3) Should I have separated the female from the babies instead of the male?

Any help would be greatly appreciated because this is the first batch of eggs she's laid that have actually hatched. Not even the local parakeet experts know what's going on. Also, sorry this is really long but I figured the more info, the better.

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Old 07-21-2015, 11:57 PM
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Hello and welcome it fine this is your first post as many members joined for this same reason myself included.

Regarding your situation I am going to flag your thread for our expert breeders so they will hopefully see your thread and answer.
You say you only think one chick is alive at this stage, firstly you need to establish how many chicks there are in the nest box alive. Don't be scared to move the hen and look it is also a good idea to clean the nest box out regularly, you can do this when she is out eating e.t.c.
If there are any more eggs from the clutch they are obviously not fertile take them out. If the baby is getting feathers the father should be feeding the chick or at least helping, is he acting stressed and pacing and calling out?
It is wise to separate them definitely, I also wold not encourage hen at her age to lay any more eggs . Her calcium will be depleted does she have access to a cuttle bone and are they being fed a varied diet of seed/pellets, greens and egg and biscuit mix are a great start.

If there is any other babies that are a lot smaller it is possible she has laid another clutch, Leave her with the younger babies and place the bigger baby with the father.
Keep an eye on them all and make sure the father is feeding the baby, at the age of a couple of weeks the baby should be starting to try to eat other foods .
Hope this helps, our breeding experts will be here soon I am sure.
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Hi and welcome

Male feeding female is the essential source for her to build her reserves to lay eggs

When female prepare for second clutch she donít want male to feed the chicks and when he does you saw the result and sometimes this aggression results in badly injuring or killing the chicks

Female should be out and male should be in to raise the chicks

Any dead chick in the nest box can spread disease which can kill the other chicks so thoroughly clean the nest box and update how many chicks are in there and of what age

Donít breed this hen again she is overage for breeding

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As Cathy indicated, it is important to know how many chicks are alive at this time. How old is the one chick you are aware of?

As the other eggs are not being incubated by the female, I would remove the female at this time and put the male in with the chick to allow him to feed and care for it. Only the male and the surviving chick(s) should be in the cage until the baby has fledged and weaned. As Chirper advised, any dead chicks or eggs that are DIS need to be removed from the nest box and the nest box throughly cleaned.

Are you ready to step in and hand-feed this baby if necessary?
Have you candled whatever eggs are left in the nest?
Are the eggs fertile or DIS?

Females become aggressive when they are ready to begin a new clutch.
Since the female is not spending time in the nest box and has attacked the male, you will need to move her into a separate cage by herself, limit her daylight and take the necessary steps to throw her out of breeding condition.

You indicate your female is around 6-7 years old which is too old to breed. It is not a recommended to allow a breed a budgie over the age of 4.

https://talkbudgies.com/budgie-breedi...s-what-do.html

Budgie Hand Feeding And Weaning Guide - Talk Budgies Forums

I would also suggest you review the information in the threads below.

https://talkbudgies.com/budgie-breedi...s-dangers.html

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If you follow the advice in the following article you should find everything you need to know: Aggression Toward Chicks, And What To Do - Cute Little Birdies Aviary

Most definitely remove the hen as soon as possible, and prepare to step in and hand feed the chicks at any time just in case the cock does not take over as expected.

Please let us know how things go, ok?
 
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I can't really add to the wonderful advice already given, but I will say--Please keep us posted! I'm hoping for the best for your budgies

Feel free to ask about anything you're unsure of and we'd be happy to help.
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Thanks for all your help ^^ I appreciate it (I was skeptical about posting on here because I didn't think I'd get any responses or anything). Also, sorry for taking so long to respond. I've been a little under the weather.

There is only one chick (a very noisy one) who's about two weeks old (it has feathers growing, but it's still pretty much naked).

I took out the female and put the male back in with the baby and I cleaned out the nest box. There were two dead baby chicks and some broken eggs. We have two cuttlebones in the cage and she likes to chew on those, but none of my parakeets like anything other than plain old bird seed. I tried to get them to eat other things, but they wouldn't.

I know she's too old to breed and her breeding was kind of an accident. She never really showed any interest in it before so I didn't think she would actually mate with one of the new males (I bought Cairo and Jericho because the parakeet I had before passed away).

To FaeryBee, no, I'm not ready to hand-feed the chick. But my mom has a couple friends who know how to do that and I'd give up the chick to them if it comes to that. I don't really trust myself with that yet. Also, thanks for all those links ^^ It's really helpful. I grew up around parakeets and this is really the only time we've had a female that laid a successful batch of eggs (our previous one died to an egg getting stuck inside of her which we didn't realize happened until she passed).

I'll try to make sure she doesn't breed again. I was also wondering, would I eventually be able to put the two males together again? Cairo's been really testy with me since I separated him from his brother Jericho (the father of the baby). He throws seed at me and squawks and raises all sorts of cain with me because I separated him.

The female right now is really agitated because I separated her from her baby. Ever time it starts chirping, she starts pacing and trying to get back to the other cage. Is there something I can do to stop that?
 
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Well done for cleaning out the nest box and taking charge. Is the female in a separate cage, you need to move her cage away from the baby so she can't hear it.
Is it possible for you to post a picture of the baby for us to see?
The father should still be feeding the baby at this stage.
Having an odd number of birds is not the best situation. Two males together is fine perhaps you should keep the female separate and place the two boys together. Once the baby is fledged take the nest box out.
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@Pretty Boy (Cathy)

She's in a separate cage, but she's near the baby because no matter where I could put her, she'd still hear the baby. He's got a mouth on him and gets really really loud. You can hear him from upstairs and downstairs and all over the house.

I've included a photo of him below. It looks like he's going to be white, but I'm not sure. Is he really? He has really red eyes and these white feathers. The mother is pure yellow and the father is green and yellow (with a hint of blue on his tail feathers).

The father is still feeding him several times a day. He's doing a pretty good job of taking care of the baby.

Would I be able to put the other male with the father and the baby?

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