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Budgie Breeding Before breeding any species, it is important to learn as much about the animals, their personalities and the best practices to follow for responsible and ethical breeding prior to making the commitment to take on the responsibility.

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Old 04-16-2016, 10:21 PM
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Hello! I've been lurking your forum for a few months now. Thank you for all the great information. Let me tell you all my story. I am a proud grandma of 2 budgies, Diamond and Chief..We will have both birds four years come July.For Xmas we bought them a huge condo cage complete with mirrors and ladders. Well we noticed they began mating constantly.They never did this before they got their new cage. We thought it would be fun to raise babies so we got a nest and she layed 4 eggs. Only one hatched out of that clutch. Her name is Mary Jane and we adore her she has a great personality. Well as soon as Mary Jane left the nest her mother laid another clutch of 7 eggs and as of now we have 3 babies, 3 days old.This was not the plan, I had every intention of moving mom and dad back to their small cage and away from the window to stop them from breeding. Obviously, I wasn't quick enough.My plan is when these babies get to 21 days old I take mom and put her in other cage. Here's my worries are, Will mom be heart broken and freak out if I take her from her babies and mate? Should I put her older baby Mary Jane in the small cage with her, to keep her company? How long until I can put my pair back together? At what age can I take the dad from the babies?Will my pair always have to be kept in the smaller cage and away from the window,to discourage breeding?
I am an adult so no need to be reprimanded for uneducated breeding. We love our babies they are all part of our family and we enjoy our new additions.However, we dont want mom to go through this again. I appreciate any advice ya'll can give me.

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Old 04-16-2016, 11:11 PM
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Hi! An official welcome to the forum is in order I suppose! Welcome to TB!!!

As for your questions regarding breeding, or rather the discouragement of it, I am no expert, but I have had a constant battle with my one male and one female. I actually can't allow them out of the cages together Mom shouldn't be heartbroken about it. It will be good for her to have a break. Reduce her daylight hours, and a bit of supplemental calcium wouldn't hurt at this point to replace the lost. It may end up that the breeding pair can't go back in with each other for quite some times. I have my males and females separate, and they are fine with it. I let them out together and there are no incidents. It took some time of course, and the adjustment for them wasn't made over night, but it did happen. This may be the best course of action in your case. Again I'm no expert, this is just what I did. Hopefully some of our more experienced breeders on the forums will see this and be able to provide you with some more thorough information. I'm sure I'm forgetting something in that lot, Good luck!!!
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Old 04-16-2016, 11:52 PM
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Hi to Talk Budgies!

We have a few members of the staff here who are experienced with breeding and I'll let them know of your thread here so that they can give their input. We have some members who are regularly on who are breeders as well, and can assist you on what to do now that you have this unexpected new clutch.

Thank you for taking the time to consider the future of your birds, and to discourage the pair to breed again. I have a male and female who share a cage, and I've never had them wanting to breed, and I intend to keep it that way. Here is a link that might be of help too. It explains some of the ways to discourage breeding mode.
https://talkbudgies.com/budgie-breedi...want-eggs.html
https://talkbudgies.com/budgie-breedi...s-new-old.html
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Welcome to the forums!

Is Mary Jane currently housed in the same cage as her parents?
If so, then to avoid potential future problems, it would be best if you placed her in a separate cage, so that your breeding pair is fully focused in raising this current clutch.
If all eggs hatch, do you plan on keeping these 7 chicks or will you have some good homes lined up for some of them?
If you are planning on keeping them, then strict measures must be taken in order to ensure there are no matings between siblings and to prevent inbreeding between them or between a parent and one of the offspring.
This can be achieved by separating and housing your budgies by gender (males in one cage, females in another).

To answer your question, the mother budgie will not suffer from being separated when the time is right to do so, she will quickly move on and resume to her normal routine. This is a common practice not only to prevent another clutch from happening, but also to avoid chick aggression once they reach weaning age. By this time, the father is perfectly able to finish raising the chicks with your help and support and since you are expecting a much larger clutch, you may really need to have a more active role in helping to raise these chicks.
When you separate the mother budgie, be sure to not give her anything that she can use as nest. Since you have Mary Jane and if they get along well, mother and daughter can be housed together for the remainder of the time till the chicks are weaned and independent. The chicks can be moved when they are perfectly confident in their skills, are fully weaned and no longer use the nest for comfort. By the time they are 7 - 8 weeks old, you can move them to their own cage.

It would also be a good idea to take any mirrors out of the cage and replace them with other types of toys. More often than not, mirrors and mirrored toys can cause harm especially when budgies develop an unhealthy attachment to them. And in your specific case by removing the mirrors, the drive to mate can also decrease (especially if the male considers the "other budgies" on the mirror as competition or possible suitors to his mate).

Before placing the mother budgie back with her mate, the nest box should be removed from the cage and no nesting sites should be available to them.
Also by following the recommendations on the link Julie has given on her post, you should be able to successfully keep your pair from breeding.

For additional info and to be better prepared, you can check the sticky threads here at the Breeding section.
These two links may be of use in your breeding journey:
https://talkbudgies.com/budgie-breedi...ing-guide.html

https://talkbudgies.com/articles-budg...me-chicks.html


Best of luck with everything and if you need further help, we will be here to assist you.
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Old 04-17-2016, 09:48 AM
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Welcome to Talk Budgies.
aluz has given you excellent advice regarding your current situation.
I would also suggest you take the time to review all of the stickies at the top of the Breeding Section of the forum to be prepared should any unexpected events arise during this second clutch.

Hopefully, all will go smoothly. If you are planning to rehome some of the babies when they are fully fledged and weaned, you may want to start lining up some prospective adoptive parents for them soon.

Best wishes.
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Thank you all so very much. We have the new cage set and have put Mary Jane in it. This is the same cage I will put mom in when babies are 21 days old. We will only be keeping one of the babies from this last clutch. And we have family that will take the others. Thank you all for being so kind.
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You're very welcome!
It's great that you already had made plans for these chicks and they will be going to good homes and stay within your family.
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It's great you have homes set up for the new chicks already! Please invite the adoptive "parents" to join the forum as well. We'd love to welcome them.
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Hi there and to the forums!

You've been given great advice to solve the repeated breeding of your pair!

I'm glad the babies are doing well and you have a good plan for their future already

We look forward to meeting them when you get a chance!

Meanwhile, be sure to look through the budgie articles and stickies to be sure you're up to date on the best budgie care practices!

It's great you've joined us and I hope all goes smoothly with your pair and their family

Hope to see you around!
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Hello everyone.! I wanted to share with you our 5 babies. . They are just too darn cute. My plan is to take mom out at 3 weeks. Do I need to wait until the new babies are closer to 3 weeks? It's amazing the difference in their sizes when they are just 6 days apart.
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