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Budgie Breeding Before breeding any species, it is important to learn as much about the animals, their personalities and the best practices to follow for responsible and ethical breeding prior to making the commitment to take on the responsibility.
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Old 09-22-2016, 06:38 PM
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Hello All! It has been ages! I am here today because well... What has been seen can not be unseen- and I just watched my mother's two budgies mate... So Now what? I know I need a breeding box- what size? Is it bigger the better?? How long do I have? And has Tess really been mated and how do I know? There is little to No information out there about this part of the breeding. I was not expecting this at all but I dont know why not- it is a boy and a girl. There is one other keet in the cage with them. It is a huge cage over 4' tall and 3' wide. Any and all help will be so much appreciated! Just please don't blast me for not expecting this or letting it happen. I really dont 'do' birds- its mom's area but now my area because if there are babies I dont want them to die. (I raised wild chicks successfully in the past- so I think I can handle keets) Thank you for your time!!

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Hi, Lain --

Is the female currently in condition?
Just because the birds mated does not necessarily mean the female will lay an egg. Hopefully she won't.
I would not allow the mating to continue however.

I suggest you separate the two birds into different cages right away.
Do not add a nest box.
If the female lays an egg, remove it from the cage immediately and toss it.
The egg will not be viable until it is incubated for several days.

Putting the female into a different cage in a different room should help to break her breeding cycle.
Limit the amount of daylight she gets to no more than 8 hours per day.
Ensure she has plenty of calcium (cuttlebone and possible calcium supplement as well).
Limit the amount of protein in her diet at this time.

When the birds come out of condition, you should be following the recommendations in this thread at all times:

When We Don't Want Eggs
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I will pass this on. I dont think she has the money to buy a new cage. I cant smash eggs though... that seems like murder and animal cruelty. Kinda like killing baby people :/
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There is no life in the egg until it is incubated, as I said.
It is no different than tossing out a chicken egg from your refrigerator.
There is no animal, no baby and no cruelty involved whatsoever.

How old are the two birds?
Are you positive they are not related?
These things are important in determining if they are even suitable to breed.

Since there are three birds in the cage, it is especially important that breeding be discouraged and curtailed.
Colony breeding is never recommended.
What is the gender of the third budgie?

Doesn't your mother have a separate cage to use as a quarantine cage or hospital cage when necessary?
Everyone should always have a spare. When a budgie is ill, it needs to be separated into a different cage so I
would recommend trying to get one.

IF it is totally impossible to separate the birds, then the entire cage should be rearranged - perches, toys, food and water dishes, etc.

Move the cage into a different room if possible.
Limit daylight hours to no more than 8 hours per day and limit protein in the diet.
Rearrange the cage about every 10 days and ensure there is nothing in the cage that can be used as a nesting site.
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As already mentioned, there is no life in the egg until it has had about 36 hours of full time incubation by the hen. Until then it is simply an egg with a cell in it that may one day begin to develop. To compare it to humans it is like an unfertilised human egg, which are not 'alive' and are produced and disposed of every monthly cycle as a natural process. In humans once the egg is fertilised it starts to divide and form a new life. In birds that does not happen until a period of time being held at the higher incubation temperature. That way birds can sometimes lay several eggs before they start sitting. It doesn't harm the eggs to sit and wait for several days because there has been no development of life yet.

If you do not provide a nest box she may not even lay. If she does lay in the cage and you remove it then there is no chick to be harmed. Please do try to discourage them, it is really not safe for either the parents or the chicks to breed with a spare bird there. It often leads to injuries and deaths.
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You've been given some great info so far regarding mating, incubation, and how to avoid accidental breeding. I hope you can convince your mother to follow along with these "best practices" for the budgies. A spare cage is absolutely necessary to have. If you follow the advice in the link given to you by FaeryBee "When We Don't Want Eggs", hopefully that will help for the future. Good luck!
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Please do take the advice offered, having three budgies together is not advisable, what is the sex of the other budgie?
Unwanted eggs are to be disposed of, if you allowed the eggs to be incubated you could end up with all manner of problems. The budgies could be related this is not wanted it can cause diseased weak chicks or even disabled chicks.
The birds can attack the chicks especially having three birds in the cage, so a separate cage for the two breeding budgies is a must. Plus they should be on a breeding diet before the actual breeding. As you can see it is not cheap to breed responsibly. Pleas try to discourage the cycle and then perhaps separate the birds.
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You've been given great advice. An egg is just egg.
Your budgies need to be the main focus and whats best for them.

Please follow the advice tou have been given.
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I fully agree with the excellent advice given.
Under the current circumstances and taken all aspects into account, the best thing to do is to discourage further breeding behaviour.
If at all possible, do get a spare cage very soon and place the female budgie there. The change of scenery will likely contribute in getting her out of breeding condition and of interrupting the egg laying cycle.
Depending on the diet and the age of your female, there is the chance of her developing problems with the egg laying process and by taking the measures on the link previously given to you, this can be prevented.
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Hi Lain!

I can't agree more with all the advice given.

Deborah's chicken egg analogy is very good--chickens lay eggs and they are collected the next morning to package/sell, thus they are never incubated so life never forms.

Discouraging the mating and egg laying by all the means listed both here and in the links will be of great help to you, and your mother can read everything, too!

Good luck!
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