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Budgie Breeding Before breeding any species, it is important to learn as much about the animals, their personalities and the best practices to follow for responsible and ethical breeding prior to making the commitment to take on the responsibility.

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Hello! I'm quite new here, and I'd just like to ask a question. My budgie pair are in breeding condition and I take care of them daily. I have seen them mating a few days in a row. However, at one point of their mating ritual, the female just bites the male and he falls off. The female has been going into the nest box all the time during these days, and she would just throw out all of the nesting materials from inside. However, I have noticed that for the past maybe two days she hasn't been going inside the nest box. They are both not tame, but will that affect anything? I'm just worried because I think that she might have abandoned her nest box because I had to remove it for a short while so that I could clean their cage. She has a crusty brown cere and is about one and a half years old. My male budgie has a deep blue cere and is also within the same age group.

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Hi there and welcome to the forums!

Before taking the breeding route and in order to do so more safely, a person should have a very good grasp of the species (this comes with real life experience in budgie ownership) and to do the required research into the subject.

The decision to breed comes with a whole lot of responsibility and commitment, the lives of the breeding pair(s) and the chicks are depending on you and the response you give if/when faced with adversity.
Things like being able to tell if your breeding pair is in good health and top physical condition to go through breeding; when a hen is expecting an egg or if she is showing the first signs of being egg bound; when a chick is having developmental problems, not being fed or showing signs of dehydration;
when there is aggression, abandonment and neglect of the chicks and it's solely up to you to feed and raise the chicks. The ability to detect early on and solve these issues can truly make a difference on the outcome of your breeding journey.

Please read this link: https://talkbudgies.com/budgie-breedi...s-new-old.html

Budgies need to be on a stable and stress free environment in order to breed safely, if all the necessary requirements aren't met and they deem it not safe, then the breeding process can be interrupted.
As for your budgie couple not being tame, this will be a disadvantage because it will make the daily nest checks on the eggs/chicks more troublesome as well as the nest cleaning.
You mentioned the female biting the male. Does she have more of a dominant personality and is it common for your budgies to get into fights?
If there is consistent aggressive behaviour between them and you notice an escalation on the bad behaviour the moment your female went into breeding condition and you added the nest box, then for the safety of your pair and in order to avoid a situation that can end in tragedy for your pair and any future chicks, it's best to remove the nest box and to discourage further breeding behaviour because it's not advisable to breed from budgies who have more of an aggressive/violent temperament: https://talkbudgies.com/budgie-breedi...want-eggs.html
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Thank you so much for the reply!
My pair are actually very bonded now. My male will always regurgitate and feed my female and the will both cuddle and preen eachother. They are both healthy and have a great diet. They eat together from the same food bowl, however my female will VERY rarely push my male onto another perch from the perch that she usually stands on because I think she thinks that perch as "her own", but she does still preen and kiss and let my male feed her, even from that perch. I am very prepared for the chicks and I have done a LOT of research for the past couple of months. I set my budgies up for breeding a month ago. Their cage is big enough for flying in and has LOTS of space for the chicks when they turn into fledglings. My main problem is that my female use to go into the nest box and stay in it for long periods of time, throwing out the nesting material, but now she isn't going inside. I think that it has been around 4-5 days since I last saw them mating. The female's droppings are larger and she eats a lot now. I make sure that they get enough sunlight each day. I cover their cage at 6pm and open it at 7am. That's enough sleep, right? They have finished two cuttlebones already and I need to go and buy another one. Please tell me if there is anything else that I need to be prepared for. If the chicks are abandoned, I do know how to feed them because of all of the research and if I am busy, I can ask one of my close relatives to do it, because they know how to do it too, since I have taught them after learning myself. After making their food, put it in a bowl of warm water so that it stays warm and then put it into either a bent spoon or a syringe (the size of the syringe matters on how big the chicks are) and then let them suck it in, making sure it goes down their osophegaus (right side) and not their wind pipe. Never force them roughly. They will suck it on their own. This is how you feed them, right? Thank you so much for reading all of this. Please tell me if I'm doing something wrong. But my main question was that why isn't my female going into her nest anymore. She has suddenly become very interested in this swing with lots of strings and things on it (she doesn't sit on the swing, she bites onto the strings and things). Please try to answer this question. Thank you again.
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I have answered your question at the beginning of the 5th paragraph.
The breeding process can be interrupted if your budgies aren't on a stable and stress free environment.
If they don't feel safe and are threatened by something, the nest can be abandoned.
Being their first attempt at parenthood, they may also not be mentally prepared for everything that breeding entails, and it may take them more time to figure things out.

Another matter that can come to play here is if your budgies aren't properly conditioned to breed (are on an appropriate diet for breeding).
Also they need a steady source of calcium available at all times, so it's best to get another cuttlefish bone or calcium block.

While it's good that you have researched on hand feeding should the need to do so arise, one thing is to know the theory, while a completely different thing is to have the actual experience, the practice in doing so.

Being able to provide medical assistance from an avian vet when needed is also vital when breeding.
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Okay. I now understand why my budgies abandoned the nest, and I can help them. Thank you for your answer.
But will they ever go back to that nest box even after I make sure that the environment is stress free, they are actually conditioned for breeding, and they have a steady source of calcium?
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It is not something that we can predict, they may go back or they may not. I would trust that if they don't go back then they are not ready/comfortable to breed, and remove the nest for a while.
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Hi! to Talk Budgies

I'm glad to hear you've been doing a lot of research prior to breeding. Learning is an ongoing process for all of us and taking the time to read the information in the links provided will be very helpful to you.

As mentioned, sometimes the first time a pair is not quite ready for breeding. If the hen does not go back into the nest box in the next day or so, I would remove it. You can always work on conditioning again in a few months time and try again.


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Hi there and to the forums!

I'm glad to hear that you've done lots of research before deciding to breed your budgies!

I agree with all the advice given above, and hope everything goes well for your budgie couple.

Meanwhile, be sure to read through the links provided above to ensure you're up to date on everything! You couldn't have come to a better place to continue your learning about these adorable little birds

If you have any questions afterwards, don't hesitate to ask as we'd love to help

I hope to see you around and to hear lots more about your budgies!

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Thank you everyone for the replies!
I have followed your advice and have read through all of these websites. I have also removed my budgies' nest box in order to condition them. I will put it back on in a few months.
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I think that was a very wise decision.
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