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Maharvi 04-07-2017 10:17 AM

Breeding albino white hen and yellow Fallow
 
Hi there Members,
This is the first post and I am very excited about my bugie pairs mentioned above. Earlier I had this albino pair with whit hen and yellow cock, but never saw them interested in each other. As i noticed the cere of the hen got tan and no ction taken by the cock. He seemed to be sick siometimes. As I noticed tail bobbing issue with him. Anyways I bought this fallow cock and after almost 12 day i am getting the first egg today. From the very first day they have been really loving to each other. My wuestion is that what chicks will i get from these eggs? As both have red eyes, thats for sire the eyes are red. But will the be albino or fallow. Ps note the chick is Albino and cock is Fallow.
Ill wait for response and will keep posting updates. Shall i mark the egg with numbers or so, in my opinion i dont think its practical. But here in the forum I assume that i will get replies from very experienced people, atleast more experienced than me. Jut for your information. This is my very first experience in breeding budgies. I have a small colony cage setup as well but it seems all the budgies are still not at breeding age or condition.

FaeryBee 04-07-2017 11:36 AM

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PoukieBear 04-07-2017 11:49 AM

Please read all the great information that Faery has given you above.

Colony breeding is certainly not the best situation for your bids. If possible, you should move your pair into a dedicated breeding cage and nest box. This way you can keep a better eye on their progress, and can monitor the chicks and clean the nest box when they start to arrive.

As for your chick outcome, none of your chicks will be Fallow or Ino, and none of them will have red eyes.

With this pair, all your chicks will be normal, all of them will be SPLIT for Fallow, and the males will also be split for Ino.

Maharvi 04-07-2017 12:05 PM

Well thankyou very much,
I am glad that you have replied immidiately. But as i told you I am new, what do you mean by normal and split of fallow and ino. Can you, if possible explain in detail. Thanks

Dearest Faerybee,

I appreciate your response and all the links. I have gone through a few links and will work on the rest aswell very soon. The reason for posting this was that i was super excited for my budgies forst hatchings. And yes this pair is in the breeding cage with its nestbox outside the cage. Regarding the colony breeding i am nit breeding them i have kept around 11 budgies in that big cage. But i am planning to get breeding pairs instead of them and look after them.

PoukieBear 04-07-2017 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Maharvi (Post 3984801)
Well thankyou very much dears,
I am glad that you have replied immidiately. But as i told you I am new, what do you mean by normal and split of fallow and ino. Can you, if possible explain in detail. Thanks

Hi Maharvi,

Normal - A Normal green or Blue Budgie. (With no visual mutations)
https://birdimagegallery.com/wp-conte.../2017/03/7.jpg


When a budgie is "SPLIT" for a mutation, it means that the bird has a recessive gene of the mutation, and it is not showing up visually in the birds feathers.

So, from your pair, all of your chicks will look like a normal Blue or Green budgie, and they will have a hidden form of the Fallow and Albino gene.

Maharvi 04-07-2017 01:47 PM

Oh does it means ill not get either of them Either Albino nor Fallow ??
Not even one of them would be like their parents.

FaeryBee 04-07-2017 01:50 PM

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PoukieBear 04-07-2017 01:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Maharvi (Post 3984897)
Oh does it means ill not get either of them Either Albino nor Fallow ??
Not even one of them would be like their parents.

That's right. Genetics are a tricky part of breeding, and takes a long time to understand. Just because you have two pretty birds paired together, doesn't always mean that you will have chicks that look just as pretty as the parents.

Your female could be "Masking" some mutations under her Albino feathers. Since the Albino gene is dominant over other genes, it will wipe out potential other mutations.

So, there is still a chance that you will get "fancy" babies, we just aren't sure if or what they will be.

Maharvi 04-07-2017 05:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PoukieBear (Post 3984913)
Quote:

Originally Posted by Maharvi (Post 3984897)
Oh does it means ill not get either of them Either Albino nor Fallow ??
Not even one of them would be like their parents.

That's right. Genetics are a tricky part of breeding, and takes a long time to understand. Just because you have two pretty birds paired together, doesn't always mean that you will have chicks that look just as pretty as the parents.

Your female could be "Masking" some mutations under her Albino feathers. Since the Albino gene is dominant over other genes, it will wipe out potential other mutations.

So, there is still a chance that you will get "fancy" babies, we just aren't sure if or what they will be.

Thanks for giving hope atleast?, by the way the same pair laid one more egg today. Its getting more and more excited.

tonic 04-07-2017 05:54 PM

Whilst it is unlikely you will get ino or fallow babies, you may still get some interesting chicks. If the male is split for ino you could get ino babies. If he is also opaline or spangle or... then you will get some chicks with these varieties. You don't know what other varieties are hiding under the hens ino, so she may add some other varieties also.

Getting all normal babies would be exciting though, it is so wonderful watching them grow and their colours come in.


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