Budgie BreedingBefore breeding any species, it is important to learn as much about the animals, their personalities and the best practices to follow for responsible and ethical breeding prior to making the commitment to take on the responsibility. Thread Description:Budgies and new eggs - Budgie being attacked!
Hi Everyone!! Nice to meet you all. I’m so glad to have found this forum! My name is Mexi - excited to speak to others about our children!
First off - YES, I was confused when I named my first-time babies and later found out male was female and female was male – lol – names were kept.
My two parakeets (5yrs old) - Conchita (male-Dad) and Paquito (female-Mom) mated and laid three eggs.
All eggs hatched – Joey (male), Mexi (male) and Nacho (female).
All live in large parrot cage so plenty of room!
Not long ago, Conchita (male-Dad) sadly died (Cancer) and week later son Joey died of sadness – I was heartbroken!!!
Paquito (female-Mom) was so sad for weeks but then later slowly bonded with son Mexi (male) and they laid 7 eggs a couple of weeks ago!! Much to my surprise! But - the three were close.
Now, Paquito (female-Mom) and Mexi (male – NEW DAD) stay in the nesting box with eggs and I quickly learned when Paquito (female-Mom) comes out to eat, she then starts ear-shattering screaming at her daughter Nacho, who sits lonely in the cage. When Mexi (male – NEW DAD) comes out, he often chases Nacho around the cage, loud yells too.
Two days ago, while watching TV, I heard screeching and saw Paquito on top of Nacho (she was on her back) attacking her.
I got them to stop and immediately took Nacho out of the cage and ran out and bought a larger cage. I put Paquito (female-Mom) and Mexi (male – NEW DAD) and the nesting box in the new cage. Nacho went right back into her same cage, right next to new one.
My question is – Can Nacho be placed into the new cage once the eggs hatch and the babies are older? I don’t want her getting attacked again, she’s so sweet.
Any advice will be appreciated!! I know it’s them protecting their eggs but poor Nacho is all alone. Should I just get her a mate and leave her separated??
It's unfortunate that you didn't come under better circumstances and sadly, there's a lot about how you are dealing with your budgies that needs to be addressed.
Understand that when you register to join this forum, you agree that budgies welfare comes first and sometimes that means we have to tell you things you're not going to want to hear.
At five years old, your budgies were too old to breed.
Four years old is the maximum age a budgie should be bred. Paquito needs to be left to enjoy her life and not be put in a situation where she is allowed to breed.
The fact your birds live in a large *parrot* cage is concerning. What is the bar spacing on this cage?
And what is the bar spacing on the second cage you got?
It's unlikely Joey died of sadness. Budgies would have to have a very close bond. He likely died of illness.
I don't understand why you allowed Paquito & Mexi to breed. Being from the same genetic pool means the off spring will have weakness due to their genetics.
You need to remove the nest box from their cage and not add it again any time soon.
Why you thought it was appropriate to have it there when you had a mother and her two offspring in the first place is beyond me.
For now, Nacho is better off alone. She does not need a mate to be happy. She needs a safe place, free of fear.
if she is in the new cage with a nest box in it take the nest box out straight away.
Leave Paquito and Mexi to raise their chicks. be mindful that Paquito doesn't get broody and try to lay again (you need to fully explore the forum's stickies and learn a lot about breeding). Make sure you know what you should do if that happens.
Once the chicks are old enough to be independent you should split your males and females up on a permanent basis.
As these birds are all related you CAN NOT allow them to breed again.
They will all be content having other birds to live with and they don't need to have the opposite sex in a cage with them.
Naco needs to be housed separately.
I strongly recommend that you do not get another budgie.
Naco will be just fine on her own.
You need to spend time with her one-on-one or rehome her to someone who has the time to give her the love, care and attention she deserves.
With regard to the fact that you allowed Paquito (Mother) and Mexi (son) to breed:
You need to be aware that the offspring are going to be weakened genetically because of the inbreeding and none of the offspring should ever be bred.
IF the chicks hatch and make it, as soon as they reach 3 1/2 weeks old you need to remove Paquito into a separate cage in a different room from where Mexi and the chicks are housed.
Rearrange her cage frequently, never provide anything in the cage that can be used as a nesting site and follow the instructions from here on out to discourage breeding.
Please address the following questions in your next post on this thread:
What diet are your birds getting currently?
Are you giving Pacquito plenty of cuttlebones for calcium?
Are you supplementing the cuttlebones with Calci-Boost?
Are you giving the parent birds egg food so they have plenty of protein?
Do you know how to prevent splayed legs in the chick?
What are you planning to do with any offspring that survive from this clutch?
Please take the time to read through the Site Guidelines, all of the How To Guides, the FAQs, the Budgie Articles and the stickies located at the top of each section of the forum.
Truly, the very BEST advice anyone can offer you is to take the time to read ALL of the stickies throughout the various Talk Budgie forums as well as the Budgie Articles we have posted.
These are great resources for Talk Budgie members and have a wealth of reliable information which will assist you to learn the best practices in caring for your budgies for their optimal health and well-being.
You've been given the best advice. I can't stress enough how important it is that you never breed those birds again, especially since they are related and above the proper age to do so. If you neglect this advice, you are putting the health of your current birds at risk and jeopardizing potential chicks.
Be sure to look through the links provided above, which include the forum's many Budgie Articles and "stickies" (threads "stuck" to the top of each subform for easy reference) to stay up to date on all the best practices for caring for budgies. If you have any questions after reading through everything, be sure to ask, as we can help.
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