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Marrionna 06-06-2017 01:01 PM

Getting my girls some male friends
 
Hi I currently have two females they are in the same cage and are well behaved with each other. I plan to get two males so that in the future I can breed them. I want to go ahead and pair them up so that they will be used to their mate and someone has suggested to me to separate the females for a bit and then get the males and put male and female together in each cage. That person also said that they should all be fine when I let them out to play together if they get along well. I was just wondering if anyone had any advice and if doing these things will work out for me. Thanks :)

Therm 06-06-2017 02:04 PM

There's a lot that needs to go into breeding so you need to do lots of research beforehand. Luckily, we have a very good resource here for you to get a lot of information about breeding. Many members wanting to go on a breeding journey will do at least a years worth of research before they take the plunge. You may have already started doing some research, but always check our stickies below for the best information, as some online source give advice that isn't always correct.
Besides from information about how to care properly for your birds during breeding, it's also very important to ensure they are on a correct diet as well.

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Other things to think about when looking into breeding is the age of your female budgies. They can be no older than 4 years old for breeding.
The males you get are likely to be this year's young, so they can not be breed until they are over a year old (giving you plenty of time to plan everything out). But you need to ensure that in the time it takes for your males to reach full maturity, your females don't become too old.

It's worth remembering that dynamics will change when you bring in new birds.
There is no way to guarantee that your new males will bond closely enough with the females to breed.
I have a large flock or 7 females and 6 males that live together in one large cage and despite being prepared to do anything I have to, to prevent breeding it is never an issue. Having males and females doesn't always equal eggs.
When the dynamics of your birds change, it can never go back to how it was. Your females might not get along any longer. It might not happen, but it could.
You may also find that one of your birds is not compatible with the other and alternatives have to be considered with where you will be able to keep them.

What do you plan to do with the birds you breed? All the new birds will have to be sold on. If you plan on keeping them and breeding them in the future, you will have to have enough space for them all. You will have to keep records to make sure no inbreeding takes place.

When you get the two new birds, they need to be put in quarantine for 30-60 days to make sure no illness is passed on to your existing budgies.
You don't need to split you females up. In fact, when you first are introducing them to the males, it's much better to allow them to choose the mate they are interested in. You will have more success if you are breeding with birds who like one another and they will certainly be better parents as well.

To start with, after quarantine, it's fine to keep all four birds together. The males will be too young to worry about breeding for a long time.

Marrionna 06-06-2017 04:12 PM

Thanks for the info. I will be sure to thoroughly research before I start breeding. I will also probably only breed each pair once unless things change. I have many people who will be willing to take any if I end up not keeping them all and I am positive they will be in good homes. My females are approximately 7 months so giving the males a year and researching everything I don't think they would be too old. I also had another question if I put them all together would the females bond with the males even though they already have a bond?

FaeryBee 06-06-2017 04:50 PM

I'm glad to read you plan to do the necessary research prior to considering breeding.
Before breeding any species, it is important to learn as much about the animals, their personalities and the best practices to follow for responsible and ethical breeding prior to making the commitment to take on the responsibility. This requires extensive research and an openness to continual learning.

It is important to take the health and temperament of the adult budgies into consideration when you are planning to breed.
You want birds that are of optimal health and temperament to pass those characteristics to the offspring.

In the meantime, please be sure to read the following as you won't be able to safely breed the budgies until they are at least 12 -18 months of age.

Be sure you quarantine the new males prior to introducing them to the females in neutral territory.

Quarantine means housing the new bird in a different cage in a different room than the current bird (as far away from the room the current bird is in as possible) for a period of 35-45 days.

Budgies mask symptoms when they are ill. Symptoms may not show up for over two weeks.
Often you will not even realize your bird is not well. Many budgie illnesses are airborne which is why you need to quarantine your new bird in a completely different room.

It is also a good idea to always take a new budgie in to see an Avian Vet for a "well-birdie" check-up. This allows you to develop a good relationship with the vet and the vet can establish a baseline for your bird in case of any future illnesses or injuries.


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