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BNunezzIV 10-18-2017 06:36 PM

So I have an issue here. I just caught one of my couples mating. I don't want any babies. There is no nest boxes or any of that. I see no signs of them trying to make nests also. What should I do?

I also don't think I will have the heart to throw out the eggs and kill the babies if she does lay eggs. I don't know what to do.

Therm 10-18-2017 07:05 PM

Split the couple up for a short time, reduce protein in their diet and restrict daylight hours to 8 hours only.
Splitting the pair up will bring the hen out of breeding condition. It's best, if possible, to keep her in a different room, but if not, just in her own cage without any males will help.

If your hen lays an egg there is no 'killing a baby' when it is first laid.
It's the same as any shop egg at that stage so it's the same as throwing away any egg.
The hen needs to incubate the egg for quite a while before there is an actual life.

I successful bred a pair this year and threw away several of the eggs to keep her clutch manageable for a first time mum. There's no need for sentimentality with an egg. It's very different to an egg that has been incubated for days.

Preventing them laying eggs is your best option.
Going into breeding because you don't want to throw away an egg would be dangerous for your birds.

BNunezzIV 10-18-2017 07:12 PM

Both my females are in breeding condition. Can I put the two females together in a different cage? Also how many eggs does a budgie lay?

And I am currently feeding them Dr Harveys Best parakeet food and harrisons mash

Therm 10-18-2017 07:22 PM

Please edit posts if you have something else to say rather than double posting.

Have your two hens been caged together before? I have a mixed-sex flock and the females go in and out of breeding condition all the time with no issues, but they are used to one another.
If your females had been caged together before and got along well, you can try this, but just be observant to their behaviour. If possible, make this arrangement when you can observe them for the most amount of time.

If the females have not been caged together before then it would be a bad time to try it and I'd recommend an additional cage if you haven't already got one and keeping the hens in a cage each.

As for the laying of eggs, this depends on the bird and her laying cycle.
Star, my hen, laid 8 eggs.

BNunezzIV 10-18-2017 07:24 PM

I have both couples in one cage. The two males and females. The females have never been caged alone together if that's what you're asking. But while they were in the big cage together they had very few small squabbles. Nothing big. It was actually the boys that went at it. That's why I ordered an extra large cage. Won't be here till friday, but I do have a small one to keep the girls in.

Therm 10-18-2017 07:31 PM

Considering your previous posts about the males fighting, I'm uncertain why they are still all housed together.
I thought the idea of getting the second cage was to split the males up?

The problem your situation creates is that I'm not confident to advise you to split the birds up with males in one cage and females in the other as the males have a history of violence.
The fact the hens have come into breeding condition and most likely the males are reaching sexual maturity too is why they are acting this way.

As your males are currently together anyway, I believe splitting them up and keeping males in one cage and females in the other is best for now.

Observe them carefully as history suggests your males are prone to aggression. As you haven't already split them up, hopefully, this is due to them calming down- you didn't update us on that situation when it's vital to know for your new issue.

If they even start to act slightly aggressively, you will need to split them up, same goes for your hens as well.

May I also ask, did you get the birds all at the same time?
If you got them from the same pet shop and they were all about the same age there's a strong chance they may be siblings and in that case, breeding would be even more ill-advised. I know you stated you *don't* want to breed, but also a reluctance to throw away the eggs seems to suggest if they laid eggs, you'd allow them to raise the chicks.

PoukieBear 10-18-2017 07:32 PM

As Therm has mentioned, its best to separate the males from the females. This is the mos effective way to prevent breeding. Since your females are currently in the same cage together, you can probably have them in their own cage with no issues, but definitely keep an eye on them since they are both in breeding condition and hormonal.

If one of them happens to lay an egg, simply remove it. There is no need for her tin incubate it, and you shouldn't feel bad to throwing it away.

BNunezzIV 10-18-2017 07:43 PM

I did state that I ordered a brand new large cage that will be arriving. The sole purpose of that large cage was to separate the two males. I was planning on putting each couple in their own big cage. But that wouldnt happen until Friday when the cage arrives. But now since I saw one of the couples mating I didn't know what to do. I have a much much smaller cage that I use for traveling. I moved the females to it. It's the only option I had... Also no I didn't purchase any of them together. They are a few months apart.

Therm 10-18-2017 07:47 PM

Thanks for clarifying the matter.

Even though the cage is smaller than you'd like, it's best for the hens to be in the smaller cage and follow the advice here:

Once the bigger cage arrives, you can move your girls into that cage.

BNunezzIV 10-18-2017 07:57 PM

How long should I keep the females separate from the males for? They are constantly calling to each other right now.

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