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Budgie Breeding Before breeding any species, it is important to learn as much about the animals, their personalities and the best practices to follow for responsible and ethical breeding prior to making the commitment to take on the responsibility.

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Old 10-26-2017, 03:13 PM
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So I intend to begin breeding again in several months when my current budgies are old enough and I'm moved into a house. When this happens, I'd like to closed-band my chicks. I know that plastic ones seem to be generally accepted to be the safest, but are aluminum ones acceptable? The reason I ask is that this website only seems to have aluminum closed bands that are very customizable. There are some plastic ones but you can only really get them in numbers 1-10 with no other info. Let me know if you know of any other place to get them or if you have any suggestions, I'd love to hear them!

Edit: I found a personalized ring section of the website. I'll see if I could get what I want from them.

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Emily,

If you are going to band your budgies, I would recommend you use only the closed plastic leg bands.

I recognize that some breeders believe banding benefits a purchaser should their budgie ever escape, but
I believe the risks of banding far outweigh the benefits.

It seems to me that the banding is really for the benefit of the breeder as a tracking mechanism.
I wonder if there aren't other ways to maintain records of your budgies that would be suitable?

I always recommend that members have any metal leg bands removed by their Avian Vet.

Have you looked at this site:

L&M Bird Leg Bands
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Unless you're planning on showing or breeding large number of birds, I personally think
banding is unnecessary and if you're not experienced in using a closed band,(putting it on at the correct time and method) it can be dangerous to the birds foot. Just my opinion.
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Of my birds who came with bands, my avian vet strongly recommended I let him cut them off. He all but insists. He's seen too many accidents from bands.

Many breeders don't use them. Even many established and reputable parrot breeders who have many birds and species to keep track of, will often do it without banding. One of my birds' breeder usually does band. Griffin came without one though. She was overly busy and didn't get one on his clutch. It doesn't matter.

Also, as Phil mentioned above, you have to know not only how, but when to put it on. When they're growing, when the small window of time is that you can get the correct size in place on the foot.
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Hmm perhaps I won't band then. Especially since I'm definitely small scale and don't intend to really go large scale at all. I know of people using birds evolution pro to keep track of their birds, but does anyone know of anything mac compatible? Currently I only have a macbook. I know I can keep physical records especially since I'll be so small scale, but I do enjoy having a program and system for it.
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I do band my chicks, and I order from L&M Bird Leg Bands that FaeryBee linked above. They are super friendly and always so helpful.

There are definitely pros and cons regarding banding, and you'll have to make your own choice about it.

Personally, I band to keep track of my birds. One of my birds that I sold to someone ended up getting lost, she was then found and posted on kijiji in the lost and found section. We were able to identify her using the band, and since I keep very detailed records and what bird is sold to who, I was able to track down the rightful owner and send the bird home.

I also band because some of my birds all look the same. Now that I have a bunch of Fallows that are all similar, I need the bands to make sure that in future breeding, they are not related in any way.
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That;s very good information Michelle. Do you use closed plastic bands? What information do you put on your bands? I can only find open bands or plastic bands with no information on them on that website. Maybe I'm looking in the wrong places lol.
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That;s very good information Michelle. Do you use closed plastic bands? What information do you put on your bands? I can only find open bands or plastic bands with no information on them on that website. Maybe I'm looking in the wrong places lol.
I use the metal leg bands. The AACC standard codes for leg bands (At least that's what I think it is)

Initials (Can either be your name initials or the initials of your aviary), Location of where your bird was hatched, Year the bird was hatched, and the chick # of that year.

So my leg bands look like this:
MLB-ON-17-25
My initials - ON (Ontario) - 17 (2017) - 25 this number changes on each leg band... If i only have 5 chicks hatch that year, each one would be numbered 1-5. If I have 25 chicks hatch in a year, they would all be numbered 1-25

Make sense?

If you call L&M and tell them what you are looking for, they are more then happy to help you out with sizes, and which type to get. They are honestly super friendly, and I talk to them every year when placing my order.
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Oh okay. Have you ever had issues personally with the metal legbands?
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My bird, Pedro, got his leg caught on a toy and thankfully was successful in freeing it without injuring himself.
I had the band promptly removed by my Avian Vet.

aluz's bird, Sindel, got her leg caught and was very severely injured.
Sindel had to have a good part of her foot/leg amputated in a life-saving surgery.
aluz spent quite a long time working with her to rehabilitate her after the injury.

There were at least two additional members on the forum who reported injuries their budgies had sustained due to catching the metal bands on parts of the toys or cages.
(Unfortunately, right at the moment, it escapes me who they were.)
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