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Budgie Breeding Before breeding any species, it is important to learn as much about the animals, their personalities and the best practices to follow for responsible and ethical breeding prior to making the commitment to take on the responsibility.

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hi, I am reading every day about this topic, but some questions are still unanswered.

hi, I was not ready for breeding but my hen layed an egg in her cage. I buyed her a breeding box and layed the egg inside. She came in and did not came out. She has now 3 eggs. Pls I have some questions. I dont see her begging for food? I dont see her eating? she comes out poos a big po mates with the male and goes to his nest.

why does she mate every day, sometimes twice three times a day? does she need more sperma? I read that she can provide herself with the sperma she has in her for 1 week. She has already eggs?

The nest/breeding box is in the cage, I let the cage door open. The male flies on the playground I build on the shelf. Shall I shut him down into the cage? he then comes to the hen and goes sometime into the nest, sometimes just sits in the cage for a while.

Is the female not boring in the nest? she is also used to stay outside. She does not feed piston millet when i stick it into the whole a lil bit. Why is she ignoring? i want to make her at less stressful as possible.

I hang the side whre the nest is near a damp towel, and the humidity shows 80% this is too much. Can this be wrong measured because the measure unit is next to the towel? how much humidity will come to the eggs in reallity?

the other hens also wanted to occupy the breeding box, so I had to separate the pair in a big cage. The other hens first landed on the cage and tried to come in to the box, but was not succesfull. They tried for one week approx. Now they stopped.

But i can swear that one hen is now deppressed! She sits sad in her coconut shell swing
but I cant take responsibility for two breedings although I know its better to have to hens breeding.

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A female laying and sitting on a clutch of eggs will be fed by the male. He will either go to the next box hole and feed her or most likely go into the box and feed her.

She mates every day because the male is fertilising each egg that she lays every other day.
The male fertilises the egg, the female just produces the egg. They need both to have a fertilised egg.

The female is concentrating on her clutch of eggs, so she's not bored. It'll be less stressful for her if you don't stick millet into the nest box.

Your breeding pair should be left alone with no other budgies while breeding, so you did the right thing by removing the others. The other hen will not be depressed.
Having two hens breeding is not better, especially when you are clearly in no way ready to be breeding birds.

The female that is currently laying the eggs you should ensure she has plenty of calcium in her diet. make sure you keep food available for the male to keep feeding her.
I would mark the three eggs she has and as she lays any others, discard the eggs on the first day. There is no life in the egg until they have been incubated for three days so it's not cruel to discard a freshly laid egg.

Discarding any other eggs means you will keep the clutch size manageable for these new parents.

You should make certain that once these chicks are out of the nest box you remove it.
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Before breeding any species, it is important to learn as much about the animals, their personalities and the best practices to follow for responsible and ethical breeding prior to making the commitment to take on the responsibility.
This requires extensive research and an openness to continual learning.

The male and female budgies that have the clutch need to be shut into an individual breeding cage with the nest box attached. The male should not be out flying about at this time.

You need to ensure you have a healthy diet available for the adults as that will affect the health of the chicks.

If you have other budgies in a different cage and they are female, you need to remove the coconut swing and anything in that cage that could be used as a nesting site.

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thank you! I am in a aw about the mating thing. I have read that the female can keep the sperm one week in her body alive? so why she needs every day mating? this is so interesting..does she need always fresh sperm?

sofar I have done everything correct. Today there was the 4th egg. I cooked the egg and felt soo guilty. Maybe nature knows, maybe it was managable for her. Who I am to judge..because I thought myself 3 eggs are enough for her.

she is very young and first time mother, also she is the smalest one of the clutch. She has different millets in the cage, mineral stone, fresh water, egg food, grit.

ok I will keep the millet out of her nesting box. What about the humidity question?

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How old is this bird you've allowed to breed?
A budgie should not be allowed to breed until it is a minimum of 12 - 18 month old.
Budgies should never be bred once they reach 4 years old.

You now have the two adults separated into an individual cage with the breeding box, is that correct?

Budgies should not be given grit.
Grit can cause crop impaction.
https://www.talkbudgies.com/diet-nutr...ur-budgie.html

https://www.talkbudgies.com/budgie-br...ding-diet.html

Yes, sperm can remain viable in the female budgie's reproductive tract for over a week or so.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3944358/

There is no mystery to the continued mating on the part of the budgies, as that is simply nature's way of ensuring the subsequent eggs are adequately fertilized.

The effect of humidity on a developing egg is important. Too little humidity and the egg dries out. The air sac in the egg is larger and the chick smaller and weaker.

Too much humidity can result in the air sac being too small and the chick too large to easily break out of the shell.

I would remove the wet towel or at least move it several feet away from the budgies' cage.
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FaeryBee has given great advice.

There is no reason to feel guilty; you could have just tossed the egg like you would a normal egg from the grocery store. There is no life formed in the egg until three successive days of incubation have passed.

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thank you! they may be 1 year old. I have the hen since last winter, but she still has no white ring around her iris. A little bit can be seen, but not a clear white ring.

what happens when the male dies? will the hen eat for herself or will she starve to death? what about the babies? m. feeds female, she then feeds the nestlings. Cant she feed them without the father? is she capable to do so?

yes the two budgies are seperated in a big cage. The box is in the cage. The door of the cage remains open the day. Both can fly around if they want to. Hen does this a couple times/day with a big poo.

Is it correct that I have to put the hen out of this cage to prevent laying new eggs, after 3 weeks first nestling hatches? will she not try to come to her little ones to feed them? I read the males does this, but when he starts exactly?

when does life in the egg die if its is abandoned by the hen, mininutes, hours?

I have so many questions. Will something happen to the egg, if the hen is on them, and I open in the morning the window for fresh air, for 5 minutes? the cage is 5 meter away from window.

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Why are you asking about when the male dies?
Is he ill?

Why are you allowing the birds to fly around during the day?
They need to remain in the cage with the nest box as I told you in my last post.

It really would have been much better for you and your budgies for you to have done all the necessary research prior to allowing them to breed.

Before breeding any species, it is important to learn as much about the animals, their personalities and the best practices to follow for responsible and ethical breeding prior to making the commitment to take on the responsibility.
This requires extensive research and an openness to continual learning.

Once again, I suggest you carefully review the information in the threads linked below:

https://www.talkbudgies.com/budgie-br...l-members.html

https://www.talkbudgies.com/articles-...want-eggs.html

Planned Co-Parenting in Raising Tame Chicks

https://talkbudgies.com/budgie-breedi...s-dangers.html

Are You Ready to Breed Your Budgies

What is Breeding Condition

Are Your Budgie's Eggs Fertile

Fostering Budgie Chicks Safely

Splayed Leg Prevention and Treatment

How to Use a Hagan Vision Plast Nest Box Safely

Aggression Toward Chicks and What to Do

Budgie Hand Feeding and Weaning Guide

Budgie Breeding Conditioning Diet

Dystocia (Egg Binding) in Birds Risks, Signs, Treatment, Prevention
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no he is not ill, but I want to be prepared for the worst case, this is why I have so many questions.

It was not my idea, the hen layed the egg! you want me to learn, but you dont give any answers that are necessary. I AM reading the links!

why do u think I should close them to the cage? the personality of my budgies is that they love to fly, for example. They get crazy if they cant.

where is the problem about it? i dont want them to have stres now.
For the case one day an egg be layed, I prepared the hen for approx. 4 months prior. She/they had allways vegetables, fruit(they dont eat them though), egg food, cottage cheese-for calcium, different millets. So what did I wrong till now?
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You want to keep them locked in the cage so they can concentrate on their eggs. Your girl is going through a lot of physical stress, she needs to male to tend her. He needs to be right there if she needs him, not flying around or playing.
Once the eggs hatch, he will be even busier. Keeping him locked up won't be stressful, it will keep him where he needs to be.
Also, accidents happen. You want to make sure the parents are safe while raising their young. Best way to keep them safe is to keep them in cage.

I think if the hen is on eggs or young babies and the male dies, she would abandon the nest. If the babies are bigger, she should be able to care for them. Another reason to keep the male locked up and safe.

I've never heard of birds retaining sperm. Daily mating makes sure the eggs are fertile. Its not weird at all.

You might not have purposely bred them but you didn't need to provide a box and let them raise babies. You could have simply tossed the eggs away.

Yes, you need to remove the hen from the babies to prevent more breeding. I can't remember what age the babies are when you do this. Leave dad with babies so he can teach them how to eat and be a proper budgie.

Fresh air won't hurt the eggs, especially if mom is o them. If its cold outside, best not to do that though as you don't want the adults sick.

Not sure how long it takes for a egg to die, I suppose a full night without being warm would be enough. Possibly faster if the egg is still young.

Not all budgies will get a white ring around their eye, it depends on their mutation. A pied for example will always have solid eyes.
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