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Old 06-20-2015, 10:18 AM
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Hello friends,

I came across this pair that I found in my local pet shop. Can you please help me in identifying their mutations?

Thanks in advance,
Deepak Eapen
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Hello friends,

I came across this pair that I found in my local pet shop. Can you please help me in identifying their mutations?

Thanks in advance,
Deepak Eapen
No, one is a greywing, the other looks like a dominant pied cinnamon ...

Give me a bit and I'll show you a spangle.
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Old 06-20-2015, 10:25 AM
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Well, I was looking for my normal spangle to put up. But since I couldn't find a picture of her right now, here's a Violet spangle opaline...



A Spangle has black outlines instead of black feathers with clear outlines.

The opaline is what causes the wing to have other colors than black and white.


Oh, and to tell you anything more about their mutations, you'd have to get a better picture of their backs and bellies, closer up to them. I can't see enough detail to say for sure what they are, just know they aren't spangles for sure

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Thanks a lot buddy for your help! I thought at least the yellowfaced one is a spangle

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The one with the yellow face is a Dominant pied... it makes the wings clear... I found my normal spangle girl pics...





The color changes in some of her feathers is from a violet factor. But she has the perfect spangle wings.
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Ok thanks a lot!

By the way are these rare mutations (as claimed by the pet shop owner)? He is charging me way more than what he is charging for other more common mutations.

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By the way are these rare mutations (as claimed by the pet shop owner)? He is charging me way more than what he is charging for other more common mutations.
Rarity really depends on area. Those two budgies, I have the genetics in my current flock to make a clutch of them, if they were desirable enough. Around here the violet spangles sell the best, because they are rare.

So it really depends where you are. The question is, do you like the mutations enough to pay extra for them?... If not, then I wouldn't pay extra for them.

Also, do you like the personality of the birds enough to pay extra for them. I go by personality a lot of the time, because if I like the bird, then the colors/mutations don't matter that much to me.


But the Greywing, may be a TCB .. not sure though, since I can't see it very well. Which would be rare... However, if the pet store owner, can't tell you the mutations. But he's up charging you based on them... I'd go somewhere else.

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I think the cock is a goldenface sky blue dominant pied greywing and the hen is a sky blue cinnamon opaline? As J.W said, it's hard to tell without clearer, closer pictures of the wings and chest.
Everything J.W mentioned is absolutely right, you have to be comfortable buying the birds at this price because you want them, not because you feel like you have no other choice.
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Yes i got your point. Thanks a heap for your help mate!

Thank you guys for your valuable advises. I really appreciate that. Unfortunately in India, none of the pet shop owners is aware of the mutations. And above all that, the funniest part is that the budgies are called "Love birds" here!

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