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Artoo update!

So...my little budgie friend Artoo is in condition. I’ve been putting her to bed super early for some time now to try to break the cycle and prevent eggs. I also switch up her cage and food cups and location of her cage frequently. I bought a wheeled kitchen cart (with a drawer and cabinet to keep her supplies - super handy) and roll her into different rooms for variety. I call it the Mobile Bird Unit.

There are no eggs (and no evidence of making eggs) so far (thank goodness) but she’s started getting territorial with her cage, nipping at my hand when I give her breakfast and clean her cage. Not every time, though. I ignore it and just do what I need to do (with verbal apologies to Artoo, of course)

She still takes millet seeds from my hand, but will often bite me (medium hard) after she eats the seeds in my fingers, then look up at me and down at my hand for more. I don’t give her more when she bites - even if she ack ack acks for more. I’m not sure why she bites me when I’m giving her a thing she loves and wants (and even asks for…), but…heh.

Artoo has also has been a little crazy with her dry herb salad cup. Not only is she eating more herb salad than before, but after she eats some she tries to dig it all out and then stuff herself into the cup! I originally had a round stainless steel cup for the herb salad, but I took it out because of the digging and because it was reflective, and replaced it with a much smaller half round plastic cup. But she does the same thing with the new cup! And yesterday she tried stuffing herself into the small cup that holds her Zupreem pellets. When I said “Hey, girl, whatcha doing?” she stopped, hopped up on a perch, and looked at me somewhat bewildered and started singing and bobbing her head at me. Hormones may have her a little nutsy…

On top of the breeding condition, she’s also about 4 days into another molt. I offer her a dish of warm water every morning when I clean her cage but she hasn’t tried it yet. She eyes it like she wants to, so maybe one day she will. I give her wet greens in the afternoon and that seems to help her, but she’s so itchy now. Misting is right out — she’s terrified of it. So I’ll keep offering the dish of water and the wet greens for now.

She refuses to come out of her cage, but I'm still working on that too on a regular schedule. I figure she’ll do it if and when she wants to.

She likes music and I’ve tried playing some budgie sounds for her and she does not react at all. But she LOVES songbird sounds and the American Robin is her favorite — she now imitates robin song! She also loves the Baltimore Oriole.

Life with a budgie is quite interesting and fun!

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I did a little rearranging in Artoo's cage today. Replaced the dowel perches with some natural branch perches and she took to them right away and spent some time hopping around on them testing distances. It should help give her more exercise until she's comfortable enough with me that I can give her out-of-the-cage time.

In this photo she just stopped jumping around when she saw I was about to take a photo! I'm not stealthy enough. Heh! Gotta work on that.

... Thanks for posting this. I also have the same cage, and my bird (Biz) really likes it. I am rearranging it this weekend and I was stressing re. what to put where, and this gives me some ideas.

Artoo is super cute... she is very lucky she chose you to rescue her. My bird was also diagnosed with scaly mites (on the feet) ... he has one treatment left. He took well to it and seems like it's clearing up and he's more comfortable. ( It was pretty evident his feet had been bothering him. Mites are awful. Thank goodness there's something that works relatively swiftly. )

*** A little comment re. the cage -- I was having some issues with mine and I called the company (Prevue Pet Products) --- and I have to say they went above and beyond in their customer service and helping me out. While I'm going to write their bird design team re. some features that could make some of their cages safer.... thought it was worthing noting that it's a real company, with real people behind it, where they convey that they genuinely care about their customers. Thought I would note this in a day and age when a lot of companies feel like cold robots. I like a lot of Prevue's products so far.

**** Bummer... I just wrote you a long post re. Biting and my experience with it and some tricks that have worked for me, however I ran into a technical glitch (got kicked offline and lost the post. ....I'l try to write it again later. ... *Question for you: are you offering Artoo millet in a 2 inch chunk with lots of balls... or just little balls of it, piece by piece? ... I switched from the latter to the former. ... It seems like Artoo gets really mad when it runs out, and perhaps you can mitigate her emotion when it "runs out" ... [ perhaps she is biting you as if to say "Hey! I wanted to keep going!!!" ] and if you give an "abundance piece: either she will eat her fill and quit (my bird will quit when he's done and not over-eat it) --- or --- you have the option of putting it away if you think she's had too much and in either case you have removed the moment where it "runs out" and perhaps she won't get mad (or afraid ... she might be scared she won't get any more food. I think if you found her, she was a lost budgie and maybe she had the experience of being hungry and that's scary for her so it's a knee-jerk reaction or something.) She might bite you if you take away the millet chunk..... but at least if you remove the "running out" element you can test her reactions and try to see what going on.

*** Also, my male budgie seems pretty hormonal right now and I'm sure that's affecting his behavior. I'm sure it will pass.

**** I just reviewed this entire thread. I think I might pick up one of those ladders...! Do you know who makes it? ... You've done it a great job with Artoo and she is incredibly cute. It looks like she might be young-ish. Like StarlingWings said.... perhaps she's in the 5-8 months old range...? Re. the biting... I've learned that it is simply part of the equation in bird ownership, and it's fairly common. I've learned that my bird uses it to convey when he's tired or irritable, or over-excited (such as while playing with a toy, or when he has raging hormones going through his body). However they also use it to convey a whole host of other emotions (fear, anxiety, jealousy, things they don't like, etc.) .... I've learned a few tricks to avoid the bites. If it's a certain time of the day (later), my budgie is prone to "tired biting" (he'll do a nice sharp irritable cranky lunge) ...& things that he might not bite at earlier in the day could be frustrating for him if he's tired. If it's a certain time of the day and he's on his favorite swing... he will most definitely snap when approached. ( Don't even think about it. He will read your mind and bite you, lol. .... If I think he's over-excited while playing or just over-excited in general.... I've learned to recognize this and if I need to move him, I offer him a perch instead of my hand at those times. ..... I've found over the 2 months of owning him, it's like a little road map and I learn the nuances & that helps. I've also accepted that there are probably bites to come in the future, & they're all just part of the road map & clues. I've accepted it's all about trying to figure it out.

I came across this video. A woman owns a budgie that has a condition that causes her female bird to have no feathers. The woman did a great video explaining why she owns her and what an inspiration she is to her and her family. I'll try to find that. It was great. ..... Here however, is where the little featherless budgie gets really angry when her favorite shiny dice toy is being cleaned. It's just part of the deal: Budgie kicking my butt - YouTube ... I can only guess that the owner has tried to remove the dice to clean them, but I'm sure that was a disaster as well. [ Resulting in an upset bird. ] I like how calm and reassuring and accepting the owner is while dealing her little bird's nuances and emotions.

Thx for reading.

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I agree that she's probably acting out a bit because of her hormones and her moult.

Poor cranky little girl!

Also, if she's around 5-8 months old, she may be coming upon her "teenage stage", which usually coincides with the first "coming into condition". Here's a link with more info:
https://talkbudgies.com/budgie-behavi...ggressive.html


She sounds like a sweetheart, I'm glad she's doing well
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This really is a decent sized cage for a single budgie. I kind of wish the bars were a bit more sturdy feeling, but it will do! Here's a couple of photos of how I have her set up today. Amazingly there's enough room that she doesn't poop in any of her cups or on any of her perches.

Right now she's singing like a robin. <3 <3
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That is just an amazing cage set up, she looks very happy with her little penthouse
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This really is a decent sized cage for a single budgie. I kind of wish the bars were a bit more sturdy feeling, but it will do! Here's a couple of photos of how I have her set up today. Amazingly there's enough room that she doesn't poop in any of her cups or on any of her perches.

Right now she's singing like a robin. <3 <3

She is adorable. That is too cute. My budgie likes canary sounds (and classical music) ... however, I'll be sure to give the Robin a try.


StarlingWings wrote: " That is just an amazing cage set up, she looks very happy with her little penthouse " <---- Agree!

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Ella .... when I read your thread re. where you put the herbs in a dish, I thought that was a great idea. I have those herbs and I thought I'd give that a go. ( I typically sprinkle them on the food. ) So I did a separate food bowl on the side of the cage with the herbs. Well, Biz proceed to engage of a game of throwing all the dry herbs on the floor. He looked like he was having a blast. So... that was short-lived for me as well.

Here is a video of him engaging in a game with some pellets I keep trying. (Harrison's.) He kept sticking his foot in the dish....at one point it looked like a wing was going in there. It would be ok if he's eating some of the pellets, but it's hard to say.

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OMG he is SO *adorable*! It looks like he's trying to scoop/dig the pellets out. But then it looks like he's also eating some. Budgies seem to love to play with their food. Hehe!
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OMG he is SO *adorable*! It looks like he's trying to scoop/dig the pellets out. But then it looks like he's also eating some. Budgies seem to love to play with their food. Hehe!

Awww.... thanks! He's a handful. ... I'm going to leave the pellets there since he might be eating them. I'm going to keep a couple different types of pellets in the cage at all times as Deb recommends. Hopefully that will work.
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Good idea. I keep multiple cups each with something different and one cup for fresh foods that I change twice daily. If she throws stuff out, I just refill it. I know she eats some of everything and loves to play with her food too...

This forum has helped me more than I can even begin to say. And it's given me the tools to help my little bird have a good life. She's come a long way in the 3 months she's been with me. Plus everyone else's bird pictures and videos are fun to look at! I love this place.
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