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Determining Gender Having trouble figuring out if your budgie is a male or female? Ask here!

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Old 05-13-2018, 04:55 PM
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Hello!

I have come to own this little parakeet (or do we call all of them budgies now? When I was a kid I was corrected to "American parakeet" and "English budgerigar" but I'm not seeing "parakeet" much now) through one of my students, who had it as a secret dorm pet but couldn't take it home due to a grandmother with respiratory (I think?) problems moving in with them.

I am curious what gender and color it is. It looks female to me and apparently that is what the shop told the girl who bought her. Is she albino? Her eyes look reddish to me, but I'm trying not to scare her too much by getting close and she also seems to have faint bars on her head.

This was the best picture I could get... hopefully it's okay. Please do not mind the perch; this was before redoing her cage a bit. This is the size cage she came with, but I'm thinking that after she's settled in and I've had a chance to tame her she'll get an upgrade.


She also seems pretty young to me, both because of her small size and because of the black on her beak. When I was a kid and my two parakeets decided to turn into seven, I distinctly remember the chicks having black stripes on their beaks for a while.

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She's definitely a female. The most correct term is a budgie or budgerigar. There are many different birds that are classed as parakeets
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Hi Elizabeth,

Yes, she's a beautiful girl iHeartPieds is correct regarding the use of the word "budgie" vs. parakeet. She does look to be albino since her eyes are red, but normally on albino budgies you can't see their head barring. I would say she's perhaps a lacewing budgie, which is an albino with cinnamon (meaning you can see very faint feather markings)

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I'm glad you've already made good use of the forums and are aware of all the rules and best budgie care practices I wouldn't consider it a "spam" of links--it's just a lot of information

If you have any questions after browsing the forums, please be sure to ask! I'm glad she'll be getting a cage upgrade soon

She's gorgeous and I look forward to seeing more about her.

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Your little female is beautiful!

We prefer the term "Budgie" which is more accurate for this species. The species is "Budgerigar" whether one owns an "American/Pet" or an "English/Show" type budgie.

Kingdom:Five groups that classify all living things Animalia
Phylum: Chordata
Class: Aves
Order: Psittaciformes
Family: Psittacidae
Genus: Melopsittacus
Scientific Name: Melopsittacus Undulatus

A "Parakeet", also spelled Parrakeet, is any of numerous seed-eating parrots of small size, slender build, and long, tapering tail. In this sense the name is given to some 115 species in 30 genera of the subfamily Psittacinae (family Psittacidae) and has influenced another parrot name, lorikeet (see parrot). To indicate size only, the name is sometimes extended to little parrots with short, blunt tails, as the hanging parrots, or bat parrotlets, Loriculus species, popular cage birds in their native area, India to Malaya and the Philippines.

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Thank you all! Good to know that she is, in fact, a she! I don't think I mentioned in my first post, but the girl that bought her was a Game of Thrones fan so her name is Ghost. Thankfully that's a gender neutral name.

I had wondered about the "parakeet" thing, because there are so many. Ringnecks, Alexandrines, lineolated... but when I was a kid I just shut up and called them whatever my elders told me to.

Thanks, StarlingWings! I will have to look up the lacewings, and see if I can get some better pictures to post. I have to say, I'm really impressed with how well socialized she is already. I know my student only had her for a few weeks to a month but I went into the shop where she got her and the employees seem to do a good job. Plus I'm used to the aviary-bred birds in California, which are downright feral when you get them.

And no offense meant by the link spamming. That's just the term for when a new member is bombarded with forum links either automatically though a bot or manually through a (human) user. I used to work in forum design and support while finishing my degrees so I tend to automatically use the lingo.
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I’m not sure how it got started, but I think Americans are the only ones who call budgies “parakeets”. As was mentioned, they are only one of many species of parakeets out there . Your girl is beautiful.
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Hi there, I don't think she is a lacewing or even an albino as you said her eyes are reddish, which sounds like me that they are a darker colour than the clear red of an ino.

Are the eyes clearly red or more dark? She could be an albino, or a dark eyed clear, doesn't look right for a double factor spangle, which is the other option. If she develops an iris ring it will help identifying her.

I know what you mean about the links, I imagine they do make it difficult for new members on phones to navigate to the responses to their questions. I see that despite this being a forum it is described as an educational resource, so I guess that is why they are added to new members threads.
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I'm sorry that some people find receiving the links to be a problem.

The links are always provided to new members,
The staff wants to ensure each new member takes the time to review the available information and use the resources as appropriate.

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Hi there, I don't think she is a lacewing or even an albino as you said her eyes are reddish, which sounds like me that they are a darker colour than the clear red of an ino.

Are the eyes clearly red or more dark? She could be an albino, or a dark eyed clear, doesn't look right for a double factor spangle, which is the other option. If she develops an iris ring it will help identifying her.

I know what you mean about the links, I imagine they do make it difficult for new members on phones to navigate to the responses to their questions. I see that despite this being a forum it is described as an educational resource, so I guess that is why they are added to new members threads.
That's interesting! They definitely aren't as red as the lutino I had when I was a kid. They look dark, but when you see her in the light you can see a faint reddish cast to them. I will try to get a better picture of her in a bit since she seems pretty comfortable here already. Can albinos still have black on their beaks as youngsters?

I am also wondering if the bars on her head are just baby coloring that will disappear when she moults for the first time. Is that a possibility? I can't really discern any other markings on her. I expected to see faint markings on her back and wings too.
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If her eyes really are darker than that but have a reddish cast she may be a cinnamon budgie with a combination of other mutations. Cinnamon budgies have plum coloured eyes.
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