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Determining Gender Having trouble figuring out if your budgie is a male or female? Ask here!

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Old 09-01-2018, 01:35 PM
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Hi everyone , nice forum you've got here .

I come to you with the same question I'm sure you get all the time , what gender is my bird ? My Son brought home this cute little bird about a year ago and of course I became it's caretaker and general owner/friend . Because I like the little Birdie (that's his/hers name , Birdie) so much I have him/her in a cage meant for a huge bird with all the toys I could see fit to hang in there . Despite lots of out time flying about the house and visiting with his/hers "It person" (Me) , the bird seems lonely for another bird . I do plan to read around the forum , I was reading already about keeping a new bird separate for 45 days and will be looking for as much advice about getting Birdie a mate as the forum wants to help me with .

So , is my one picture enough , or should I try to get some more pictures for a gender determination ? Thank You in advance for any answers/advice about getting Birdie a mate .
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Old 09-01-2018, 02:01 PM
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Birdie is a lovely female!
Itís great that youíre reading through the stickies and are aware of quarantine.

Just a couple of notes for now:
1) We usually advise that owners donít put anything in the cage that could be viewed as a nesting site (the coconut hut), as they can encourage birds to engage in nesting behaviour.
2) Itís seems that you are using pads designed to soak up child or pet dog urine in the bottom of the cage - please be very careful that Birdie cannot gain access to these as they contain liquid absorbing substances that can be dangerous if ingested. It looks as though the edges may be accessible through the grate. Plain butcherís paper or newspaper is a much better option; it wonít smell if changed frequently, it is safe to chew and it allows better assessment of any poop changes which is often the first sign of ill health.

Iím not sure if you plan to get Birdie a friend or a mate. Breeding birds needs a lot of research and preparation, so if you are planning a mixed sex couple then the following link is very helpful:
https://www.talkbudgies.com/budgie-b...want-eggs.html

More birds means more mess and more vet expenses, plus there is always a risk that two birds may not get along well, but if youíre prepared to house them separately if they donít, then I feel theyíll still enjoy the presence of another bird even if they prefer their own space.

Continue reading through the stickies https://www.talkbudgies.com/general-...-stickies.html and if you have any further question, then post away.
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Hi and welcome to Talk Budgies!
Julia has given you excellent advice.
If you have any questions after reading through the stickies and Budgie Articles, please be sure to ask.
We're glad you've decided to join the community!
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Hi JRS and FaeryBee , Thank You for the warm welcome to your forum , and Thank You for telling me that Birdie is a girl ! I'm reading all the stickies and am in no rush to "upset the apple cart" with adding another bird since Birdie is very healthy . And yes I'll be asking lots of questions before getting Birdie a mate (if I in fact do) . As to the "puppy pads" thankfully there is a good 2" between the bottom of the bird house's bottom and the pan where the puppy pad sits so there is no way Birdie can reach any part of it , I change it once a day (just before I cover her house for the night) and take note that her poop isn't too watery or different looking than normal . Please tell me , you mentioned the coconut and the possible "nesting" as a negative behavior , why is that ? It's interesting to mention the coconut has been in her house for her whole time in there (A little over a year) and she hasn't shown any interest whatsoever about going inside it , even when my Son put some food in there for her . Are some birds more prone to nesting than others ?

Again , Thank You and I appreciate all of your help

PS , I have just removed the coconut because I read that anything with rope is bad news in a Budgie house , and my little Birdie had indeed been chewing on the rope that the coconut was hung from .

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Hi JRS and FaeryBee , Thank You for the warm welcome to your forum , and Thank You for telling me that Birdie is a girl ! I'm reading all the stickies and am in no rush to "upset the apple cart" with adding another bird since Birdie is very healthy . And yes I'll be asking lots of questions before getting Birdie a mate (if I in fact do) . As to the "puppy pads" thankfully there is a good 2" between the bottom of the bird house's bottom and the pan where the puppy pad sits so there is no way Birdie can reach any part of it , I change it once a day (just before I cover her house for the night) and take note that her poop isn't too watery or different looking than normal . Please tell me , you mentioned the coconut and the possible "nesting" as a negative behavior , why is that ? It's interesting to mention the coconut has been in her house for her whole time in there (A little over a year) and she hasn't shown any interest whatsoever about going inside it , even when my Son put some food in there for her . Are some birds more prone to nesting than others ?

Again , Thank You and I appreciate all of your help

PS , I have just removed the coconut because I read that anything with rope is bad news in a Budgie house , and my little Birdie had indeed been chewing on the rope that the coconut was hung from .
Nesting spots can encourage females to lay eggs even without a male around. This puts a lot of stress on their body and they run the risk of becoming egg bound.

What are the dimensions of birdie's cage and what makes you thinks she is lonely?
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I'm glad to hear you've removed the coconut hut from the cage.
Some females exhibit nesting behaviors while others don't seem to be as interested.
When a female starts nesting and laying eggs (with or without a male present) it can be very hard on her body as the calcium levels are depleted as she forms the egg(s).
Discouraging nesting behavior is the best defense.
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Nesting spots can encourage females to lay eggs even without a male around. This puts a lot of stress on their body and they run the risk of becoming egg bound.

What are the dimensions of birdie's cage and what makes you thinks she is lonely?
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I'm glad to hear you've removed the coconut hut from the cage.
Some females exhibit nesting behaviors while others don't seem to be as interested.
When a female starts nesting and laying eggs (with or without a male present) it can be very hard on her body as the calcium levels are depleted as she forms the egg(s).
Discouraging nesting behavior is the best defense.
Hi iHeartPieds and FaeryBee ,

Here are two pictures of Birdie's house . It's meant for a Cockatiel and gives her plenty of room . You can see her in the upper right hand side of the house , playing with one of her favorite bell toys (she loves anything with a bell on it that she can ring so there are lots of little bells in there for her) . I tried to show the distance from the bottom of the enclosure to where the catch pan is , the picture doesn't really show the distance well but there is no way she can reach the puppy pads I use to line the bottom . Not only did I get rid of the coconut I also got rid of another toy that had rope which she had chewed because I read that rope/string is bad news for her , don't want any Crop problems here . I have decided to not get another bird , I was under the impression that Budgies don't like to be without the company of other Budgies but since I will not be breeding baby Budgies I don't want to risk her health by introducing another bird . Actually she seems fine with just me , what I thought was "bored behavior" is her way of resting after her "out time" flying around the house .

My next questions will revolve around food , she happily eats her birdseed and the hanging treats called "Crunch sticks" that I buy for her , but so far she has shown no interest in any of the fruits or veggies that I've offered her . Is there a specific "most favorite" fruit I could try ?
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Hi there and to the forums!

Birdie is adorable I'm glad you've removed the hut from her cage!

You're right that budgies love company (they are flock animals), but it doesn't have to be another bird. Many budgies love to be part of a human "flock", where they are the only bird but feel right at home with their humans. If you spend lots of time with Birdie and she's active and cheerful, she's probably just fine without another budgie friend. There's no fear of accidental breeding, either

I'm glad to hear you're taking such great care of her so far. Her cage looks great!

Try and feed her a wide variety of veggies. Fruits are very high and sugar and thus are more of a treat! My girl loves shredded carrot and bundles of wet greens like parsley or romaine lettuce. She may not take to it immediately, but offering something every day can entice her to try it.

If you have any questions after reading through everything, be sure to ask as we'd love to help!

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I would suggest you remove the wooden dowel perch and replace it with natural wood perches of varying diameters to help prevent pressure sores.

Pressure Sores

This link will give you great information to help you ensure Birdie's home has everything she needs:

Essentials for a Great Cage

Crunch Sticks aren't the best choice of food for your little girl.

Healthy Diet for Your Budgie

Quality Seed Mix

Cuttlebones, Mineral Blocks, Manu Clay Roses

It can take several weeks (or even months) for budgies to decide to try a new food.
Fruit is high in sugar content so vegetables are actually healthier for your budgies with fruits given only occasionally (once or twice a week)

The first vegetable which my budgies that had not been weaned to vegetables tried (and loved) was sweet corn kernels sprinkled with a teeny bit of garlic powder (NOT salt).

Budgies seem to love "spicy" tastes.
They also adored fresh basil, cilantro, dill, chickweed, zucchini and red pepper.

Using Apple Cider Vinegar (with the mother)
as a natural pro-biotic is very beneficial to your budgies:

Apple Cider Vinegar

When I introduced pellets to my budgie, my Avian Vet recommended using Harrison's High Potency Mash and sprinkling it on the budgie's seed mix every day. This way, when the budgie hulls the seed it tastes the pellet mash and ingests bits of it as well. This helps the budgie identify the taste as a food source.

Many members seem to find the easiest pellets to use for introducing pellets to their budgies to be the CANARY sized Zupreem fruity pellets. Most budgies like the taste and the "Canary" sized pellets are tiny enough for them to easily eat them. Once they've become accustomed to the Fruity Pellets, introducing the smallest "natural" pellets is then an easy step.

Other than when I was using the Harrison's mash, I've never mixed my birds' pellets and seed together. My birds have three separate dishes each with a different brand/flavor of pellets available to them 24/7. Their seed is rationed to approximately 2 teaspoons of seed per budgie each day. I give them seed first thing in the morning right after putting clean newspapers on the bottom grate of the cages. I sprinkle their morning ration on the paper so they can forage for the seeds. I then do the same thing in the evenings (after replacing the soiled newspaper with clean) and again allow them to forage for their seed.

All of my birds have the option to eat the available pellets whenever they like throughout the day and they all enjoy them!
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To prove I take your word seriously , I took a trip through the local Petco which yielded a couple of different types of wood perches , and I bought four but only installed three . The fourth has some kind of sandpaper surface on the last few inches of it , and I wasn't sure if it is OK in Birdie's house (I didn't notice the sandpaper till I brought it home) . It took her all of about 5 minutes to grudgingly accept the new perches and she seems more sure footed on them than on the skinny dowels . I also bought cuttlebone and spray millet which I will introduce slowly once she is totally comfortable with the new changes in her house . I will also try your corn kernels with a bit of garlic power suggestion , again when the shell shock wears off about the redecorating .

Thank You for all of your help I really appreciate it , I intend to give my little Birdie the best life a little Birdie could possibly have
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