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crnivrag 03-21-2019 07:06 PM

I need help to determine gender
 
Hi,

Can someone help me to determine gender of my budgie :)

I thought it was a male, but now I'm not sure at all.

He has blue "nose", and now that blue color is fadding away, and he/she has some kind of white crust.

He/she is one year old, and here is a picture:

https://i.imgur.com/xb7PMtz.jpg

Blingy 03-21-2019 07:44 PM

Hi there! To me it looks like your budgie is a make (I think I can see a blue cere but it’s hard to tell), however I believe your budgie could have quite an advanced case of Scaly Face Mites, which is the ‘white crusty stuff’ covering the cere and beak. If I’m right, this will need multiple treatments by your avian vet but will clear up. All birds in the house will need treating and all cages, toys, perches, food bowls etc. will need washing and sterilising. I could be on the wrong track so hopefully a more experienced member will either confirm or correct for you soon. Best of luck.


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FaeryBee 03-21-2019 08:43 PM

Your budgie definitely has a very advanced case of scaly mites and needs to be treated right away.
The poor bird is suffering and this has obviously been going on for quite some time now.
I have to ask why you didn't take the bird to the vet immediately upon realizing there was a problem?

Avian Vets have special training to determine the cause of symptoms resulting from illness or trauma.
This is important as "regular" vets will often overlook symptoms that are quickly obvious to an Avian Vet.
When you rely on anyone who has not had training in Avian diagnosis and care, you may be delaying effective treatment.
This can prolong suffering that may be avoidable.
The bird will often require a more intense, prolonged treatment with a poorer chance of full recovery than it would have if you seek prompt professional diagnosis and treatment at the first sign of illness.

If there are no Avian Vets near you, please find an Exotic Pet Veterinarian with experience in dealing with small birds.

The budgie is going to need to be treated either with Ivermectin Spot-on treatment or with Scatt Spot-on treatment. Do not attempt to use any type of mite spray.

Additionally, I recommend you remove any plastic perches and wooden dowel perches in the cage and replace them with natural wooden perches of varying diameters to help prevent pressure sores.

Pressure Sores

The information in this link will give examples of better options for perches:

Essentials for a Great Cage

Please be sure you get your poor little budgie treated for the Scaly Mites right away.

crnivrag 03-21-2019 08:53 PM

Thank you for your answer.

I will take my bird to the vet ASAP.

I didn't know what does this crust mean, and this appeared two months ago.

FaeryBee 03-21-2019 08:57 PM

Please make sure you ask for ivermectin spot-on treatment when you see your Avian Vet.

Your budgie may need more than one treatment given the advanced stage of the scaly mites.

If so, the second treatment will be given about 14 days after the first.
Hopefully, two treatments will be sufficient although it may take an third treatment 14 days after the second treatment.

Please be sure to update us on your budgie's condition.

Best wishes.

crnivrag 03-21-2019 09:13 PM

Thank you for your really helpful advice.

I didn't know that my budgie has this serious medical condiction (parasite).

I will keep you posted on his/hers recovery progress.

Blingy 03-21-2019 09:22 PM

That’s great that you’ll be taking your budgie (what’s it’s name?) to the vet ASAP to get the treatment needed. With the treatment, the condition will clear up, which is great news. FaeryBees advice about replacing all plastic and dowel perches with natural perches of different diameters is definitely worth following. It’d be terrible if your bird was to develop a foot problem. Check out the stickies for setting up a great cage as you’ll find everything you need there, from cage size to perches and toys. I look forward to hearing how your budgie goes at the vet.


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RavensGryf 03-22-2019 01:54 PM

This bird is female. But as was pointed out above, that’s the least of the concern at this time :). Ivermectin is what is needed for scaly face mites. You’ll need to thoroughly disinfect everything in the cage. Take the cage and toys, perches, etc. apart, and do every crack and crevice. Cloth or porous items that cannot be cleaned thoroughly must be thrown away (outdoor trash can). Keep us posted!

crnivrag 03-22-2019 08:09 PM

I took my bird to a private vet clinic today, but they didn't know what to do.

They didn't want to prescribe any medication for my budgie, and they sent me to Veterinary Faculty, where they told me that I can get my budgie checked, and that they will take some samples for microscopic analysis, but I need to wait for 3 weeks for my appointment :(

I don't have any other choice but to wait, because private vet clinics won't treat my budgie without microscopic analysis.

When I got home, I cleaned cage, and everything inside with hot water and vinegar.

I forgot to mention that I live in Sarajevo - Bosnia and Herzegovina, where we don't have specialized bird vet, we have only common vets that treat all kind of animals.

P.S. Are you sure that my budgie is a female? I was working hard with my budgie for this past year to teach him/her how to speak, but he/she didn't say a word yet :(

Here are additional pictures of my budgie, for gender determining purposes :)

https://i.imgur.com/bOeztok.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/rVR4uLg.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/CLgtSaG.jpg

StarlingWings 03-22-2019 10:48 PM

Actually, the mites are so bad the budgie looked female; with a brown cere.

However, you can see in the new pictures that he is actually a male :eek:

The mite infestation is really quite terrible and it's only going to get worse. You don't have time to wait for a vet appointment three weeks away! You can order the medication online - just look up Ivermectin Spot-On treatment.

I hope he gets better soon :fingerx:


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