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migo 04-07-2019 10:50 AM

Companion Gender and Mutation
 
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Hello,

So I thought the dude inside the cage (Fawzy) is a bit lonely and I got him a companion (Jasmine-for obvious reasons). He was extremely excited and welcoming- to an annoying level in my opinion :001_smile: Jasmine is probably around 7-8 weeks old, all white except a couple of very faint yellow on the back, red eyes, and way less 'talking' than the other guy.

However, we aren't sure of the gender. If she's a female, do I need to get some sort of an enclosure? Your help is very much appreciated in identifying the gender and mutation.

Thank you.

FaeryBee 04-07-2019 08:12 PM

Happily, the budgie you chose as a companion for Fawzy is actually a male budgie and is an albino.
The fact that you have two males is great as you won't have to worry about accidental breeding.
Two males can become best buddies and will generally get along very well together. :thumbup:

However, you really should have the new bird in quarantine.
Quarantine means housing the new bird in a different cage in a different room than the current bird (as far away from the room the current bird is in as possible) for a period of 35-45 days.

Budgies mask symptoms when they are ill. Symptoms may not show up for over two weeks.
Often you will not even realize your bird is not well. Many budgie illnesses are airborne which is why you need to quarantine your new bird in a completely different room.

It is also a good idea to always take a new budgie in to see an Avian Vet for a "well-birdie" check-up. This allows you to develop a good relationship with the vet and the vet can establish a baseline for your bird in case of any future illnesses or injuries.

Once the full quarantine period is completed. The two budgies should be introduced in neutral territory.

Introducing two Budgies

I assume you'll be changing Jasmine's name to a name more suited for a male budgie. Let us know what you choose!

RavensGryf 04-08-2019 12:56 PM

Hi :welcome:

Jasmine is definitely a little boy. That’s the best combination. Two males can make a closely bonded pair without having to worry about accidental breeding.

As mentioned above, you should always keep new birds in quarantine. It’s not too late to start, but you’ll need a separate cage. It’s always good to have a spare cage anyway, for a hospital cage.

How large is the cage you have them in? I can see from the style of the roof, that it’s probably not real large. It might be nice to get a bigger flight cage, and keep that one as a spare. More room will make the birds happier in the long term, and less likely to bicker. Even a close pair can have little arguments, and the more room they have, they will do it less.

StarlingWings 04-08-2019 01:28 PM

He's beautiful! It's great that he's a boy so you don't have to worry about accidental breeding. Additionally, I think Jazzy is a great name for a boy if you'd like to keep it similar ;)

As a point of interest, you should NEVER put any covered spot in a budgie cage for males OR females - they don't need any sort of enclosed space and adding one will only trigger unwelcome hormonal surges and potential wanting to breed. :thumbsup:

I hope to see more of your two boys soon!

Birdmanca 04-08-2019 06:13 PM

Good Luck with your new budgie. A fine looking and very young bird. May you and your other bird have many good years together. I think you did well in the bird you picked out. The bird is in fine shape.

migo 04-08-2019 07:47 PM

Thank you all for the invaluable information. It's actually a peace of mind that I don't need to worry about babies :oops: That also explains why they're getting along quite well.

The cage I got for my first budgie was labeled for 1-2 small birds. I think it's a bit small for them although we get them out of the cage frequently. Both had their wings trimmed at the store so they aren't great flyers, yet. It's a good idea to have a larger cage though. It'll give them better quality of life.

They have been in the same cage for almost three weeks already. Do you still think it will be beneficial to separate them?

FaeryBee 04-09-2019 07:39 PM

Since they've already been together for three weeks, separating them at this point will not be beneficial.

The very minimum size cage for two budgies would be 30" long x 18" wide x 18" high but bigger is always better.
Just make sure the bar spacing is no more than 1/2".

A great cage to consider for your two budgies would be the Prevue Hendryx F040.

Prevue Hendryx F040

Hunterkat 04-09-2019 11:30 PM

If you can't fit the size of the F040, this cage is what I have for my two and it's quite roomy (though go with the biggest one you can!)

FaeryBee 04-12-2019 05:57 PM

The cage Katherine gave you the link for is a great one as well! :thumbsup:

Let us know what type cage you end up getting for them.

migo 04-12-2019 09:28 PM

Thanks, friends! I'm looking up cages with the dimensions you suggested. I'll let you know.

The boys are getting pretty chatty now :albino pf::yes:


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