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Determining Gender Having trouble figuring out if your budgie is a male or female? Ask here!

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Hi, breeder said it didn't know sex....I bought it at 3 weeks and hand fed. I posted some pics of the cere on another forum and was told it was a male.
After the vet gave all clear to let him be added, we added him this week. Not my 3 boys are fighing, and one keeps trying to mount him...a lot.
Is this a hen? Is it unsafe to keep her with them? I'm a bit confused.
Thank you.
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Based on the way this bird looks on my computer it looks like a boy, is the cere an even pink color as it appears to me to be, if so it is a boy and the cere will eventually turn blue. If the birds are fighting you need to separate them, it is never advisable to add a new bird directly into the cage of others, there should be a gradual introduction.
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I agree with Cody that your new budgie is a male.

How many budgies total do you have and how large is the cage you have them in?
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It is always best to introduce birds in neutral territory.
I would recommend you remove the new budgie and cage it separately for awhile. If one or more of your other birds is constantly harassing or trying to mount it, that isn't good for the new bird's emotional well-being.

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Thank you. Please know I didn't just dump him with the three other budgies. I didn't think to state that but I didnt think it would be assumed something like that either...... They are not in cages together. I only allow them to gather together for their free flight and out of cage time for an hour at a time a couple times a day. On top of their cage I have a whole play gym and toys and food. Theres 5 bowls and water so there's no fighting over food. The new budgie has never been put in their cage with them. The three other boys will fight with each other to get a chance to mount the new addition.
There is one budgie who does it more than the others. He is the only pest store budgie. The rest are show budgies. None of the other boys fight with each other like they have been now. And like I said, they fight eachother now over a chance to get to the baby. Is it establishing dominance? I didn't know birds would do that.
Right now, they have been together for an hour and so far only the pet budgie has tried to do the mating dance (head bobbing, feeding wing display) and then going behind and trying to hop on the back. All the others seem to be chilling.

But thanks for letting me know it is male like I thought.

To answer the cage question, the three boys live in a 53" tall, by 32" wide, by 20" deep. The cage the baby is in is a weaning cage. So its 26 by 16 by 12.
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BTW, his nostrils are turning white now....my camera ***** and I just cant capture it. But here is a pic from today.
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Yes, in that picture it does appear the budgie is female.

That said, I would suggest you house her in a different room that the males. They may become overly aggressive with one another all wanting the chance to be with her and I know you don't want that.

Since you have a lovely cage for the males, I'm assuming you'll soon have a larger cage for your female as well.

Have you named her yet?
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Its a funny story, we were going to name it Ahsoka Tanu if it was a girl and Poe Dameron if boy, but after the feeds they would fall asleep on my shoulder or chest and become flat as a pancake. And since we didn't really know for sure sure gender, we adopted the name Pancake. Ive never seen a bird sleep like this and they do it all the time.
This baby has been a learning experience.. The breeder was selling babies too early, lied to me about age. Told me she was 5 weeks and only needed formula for a week.
She was being kept in very poor conditions at the breeder, so I feel like I rescued her....when i took her to the Vet, we ran the battery of tests (she was also showing signs of sour crop), I have had budgies my whole life, but never hand fed before. I watched LOTS of videos and tutorials, but....And he gave the ok after to allow the boys to see us feed her so they were aware of her presence. From the start they all were VERY interested. As soon as she showed signs of wanting to wean, she went back to the vet to ensure loss of appetite wasn't another infection and i was given the all clear to introduce them all. I asked the vet the sex but he didn't really have an answer....The cere was giving us so much trouble. It was white, then pink, then purple around the edges as the melanin in the beak started to fade, then back to pink, now starting to go white. Ive never seen anything like it.
We have mauve spangle who's cere is purple with blue around the nostrils....thats probably the strangest cere I've seen yet so, this was like ahhhhhh.

The other cage for her will be 30 by 18 by 18...so nice and long for flight.

My spangle is only 16 weeks old....since he hasn't reached sexual maturity yet, and they seem to ignore eachother...actually he is the only one not fighting, it was the other two that would hop at him if he went near her....can they be housed together?
Pancake has figured out how to escape the cage and get to theirs. Maybe if we had two and two housed it would be OK.
She lifts the water/food doors.
Also, her chirp is really quiet....i dunno anyhoo....
I've never had a female before...so this is really new.
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By the way, how do you..or can you...edit your posts? I've made some typos and wish to add a detail....not sure why my pic came in upside down....
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If the one young spangle male and the baby female are not fighting, then you can try housing them together. Will you have the 30x18x18 cage soon?

Since they are mixed gender, you are going to need to do everything necessary to discourage any breeding behavior.


Rearranging their cage frequently, and limiting the light they get to 8 hours a day will help tremendously. Please be sure you never put a nest box or anything that could be used as a nesting site in their cage.

You'll need to put bird safe locks or clips on the doors of the cage to prevent her from escaping if she's already learned to open the cage doors.

Pancake sounds like quite the little character!

By the way, I have a female that loves laying on her tummy too. Sometimes they will outgrow that tendency as they mature -- just so you know.
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Oh yeah, I have 4 cages. We started out with a small cage for the pet budgie and when I add a new bird, I bought a new cage for them. And so on. The largest is big enough for 4 or 5....though I'm not gonna add anymore now. 4 is enough.

Thank you for the tip on the pics. And the tip on the locks. And for everything else.
You've been great.
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