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Diet and Nutrition Discuss issues related to diet and learn about encouraging your budgie to a variety of healthy foods
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Old 02-17-2015, 11:29 AM
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Hey guys!

So I know its good to give your bird protein, specifically egg (with the shell in), and it got me wondering about other types of protein such as meat and fish.

Does anyone know if they can have red meat, fish, chicken (is that borderline cannibalism?) or white meat?

I don't think any of them would be harmful but I'm also not sure if they would be beneficial, thoughts?

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Old 02-17-2015, 11:33 AM
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My budgies have never accepted chicken, but my African Gray enjoys a nibble every now and then... shhhh! (She doesn't know it's a bird...)
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Though I find it unappealing, my Alexandrine was raised on meat, specifically chicken. Grosses me out feeding bird to bird but apparently it is not the same as feeding cows to cows.
The one thing that I would caution, however, is that antibiotic use and hormone use in meat products (hormones use not legal in Canada but we do get meat products from the US where it is legal) could be problematic. If you are going to try any meat I would do organic. I would skip the fish altogether as the toxin levels are horrible. Alaskan salmon would be a clean source. Definitely avoid any farmed fish as they are really nasty in terms of antibiotics and built up toxins.

Probably too much info but with their bodies being so small, it takes a lot less of any toxin to do damage
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Though I find it unappealing, my Alexandrine was raised on meat, specifically chicken. Grosses me out feeding bird to bird but apparently it is not the same as feeding cows to cows.
The one thing that I would caution, however, is that antibiotic use and hormone use in meat products (hormones use not legal in Canada but we do get meat products from the US where it is legal) could be problematic. If you are going to try any meat I would do organic. I would skip the fish altogether as the toxin levels are horrible. Alaskan salmon would be a clean source. Definitely avoid any farmed fish as they are really nasty in terms of antibiotics and built up toxins.

Probably too much info but with their bodies being so small, it takes a lot less of any toxin to do damage
Well I live in Canada - so no worries there, I don't think I have ever bought american meat (fruit and veg on the other hand yes).


Why is Alaskan salmon a clean source - what do you mean by clean source?

Also do you happen to know of any reliable organic providers? I keep reading those consumer reports about products being labeled as organic but really aren't. I was most dismayed when I saw the CBC consumer report on antibiotic free chicken not really being antibiotic free - the chickens just weren't dosed AS MUCH as other chickens despite being organic certified. Its kinda scary how little you seem to be able to trust of what you're being sold.

Sorry, sorry rant over.

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Yes, budgies can eat meat. However, they should have high-quality (organic, if you can) meat cooked completely through and at a safe temperature for them. Not right off the grill, if you will.

They should only have meat as an occasional treat. My vet recommends once every two weeks. This is because their livers are not designed to deal with proteins the same way as ours and too much protein can cause liver damage. The caloric content is also very high, and if your budgie is on an all-seed diet, you probably want to avoid too many extra calories. He did say that eggs are better than meat, but to be careful about over feeding.

Looking forward to seeing what the experts say on this topic.
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Some breeders here in Australia and in the UK use a product called Livamol in the powdered form. It is mixed protein meals, molasses, oil vitamins and minerals. It also has Iodine which is essential to budgies. This is only given sparingly and occasionally. Can be mixed in with some egg and biscuit mix.

You can also give your bird some well cooked chicken bones, lamb bones and beef bones to chew on, with the lamb and beef it is more the smaller bones like lamb chop or t-bone. I would not give any fish products as some fish can contain high amounts of mercury especially the larger fish that is often used to make fish meal products.

In the wild budgies will eat insects and have even been known to pick at road kill. I laugh when I see my cockatoo's catching flies, it is like an anteater when the tongue shoots out and grabs them.
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IF they are chicken they will be birdie cannibals? Lol
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Cows and sheep are mammals as are humans. Doesn't make us cannibals. You are only a cannibal if you eat your own species.
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My cockatiels absolutely love cooked chicken. They always know when I am making it and screech to no end until they get a little piece, lol.
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The Alaskan salmon is considered the cleanest, meaning the least toxic. It is always wild versus farmed. Farmed fish swim in their own excrement, are given antibiotics to control potential infections, hormones and vaccines. These are unfortunately passed onto those of us who consume these products which results in antibiotics being less effective when we need to take them as we have become accustomed to them through our diet. This is one of the major reasons that the antibiotics of today are much stronger than those of 20 years ago. The other problem with fish these days is that there are so many toxins in our waters from manufacturing companies dumping waste directly into the waters, overflow from our untreated sewage and of course all the pharmaceuticals that are not destroyed in the sanitation process. One of the best examples is the birth control pill and the effect that it is having on wild life.
When I meet with clients (as a nutritionist) I recommend that they take a fish supplement before consuming fish as the supplement companies use a molecular distillation process that filters out almost all of the mercury and other toxins so they are now actually a better source of omega-3 than fish. So sad what we do to the environment in the interest of "big business".
Now I will finish my rant… Let me know if you have other questions, I have tons of info and am always happy to share
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