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Old 03-17-2015, 06:46 AM
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Question Pudgy Budgie - Finch seed or budgie seed?

Hi Everyone,

My budgie is very overweight. He weighs 52 grams and he is an Australian budgie not an English.

I have read that finch seed isn't as fatty, should I switch to finch seed? He can't fly so his only source of exercise is climbing.

At the moment I am feeding him Trill. Does the oats in Trill make budgies fat?

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Hi Fletcher,

I'm not sure about the Finch seed as I have no experience with it - hopefully others from the forum can advise you on that.

Does your budgie eat anything other than seeds? I would encourage you to gradually introduce crumble and vegetables to his diet if they are not already a part of it.

It is important not to discontinue the food he is familiar with suddenly though as budgies to not like sudden change. My budgie was on a seed only diet before I got him and I very slowly started to reduce the seeds once I knew he was eating the crumble and veg. Eventually seeds became treats for twice a day only.

I hope this helps and best of luck with your budgie's weight loss program
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Thanks for you reply Niamh,

I am adding some veggies to my budgies diet - it is a working progress, he only likes apple so far.
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I don't know if you can give your budgie finch seed. You have to be very careful switching seed over they can either get sick or have the runs.. If you are changing budgie mix for another one you have to mix half of each and put it in the one container so he gets use to the new budgie seed..... Never heard of a budgie eating finch seed though....

I buy my seed loose from a produce seed place and this is what I give my budgie

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1 cup of plain canary seed
1 and a quarter of a cup of Jat Millet
1 and a quarter of a cup of White Millet
A small amount of hulled oats.

I mix this up and store it in an air tight plastic bag then in a dark cupboard. I only fill up my budgies seed dish I don't use all of this that I have mixed up. My budgie also has pellets in another seed dish to if he chooses to eat them he does but he loves his seed I don't think that this is fattening my breeder told me this as he feeds his birds on this. I buy the best quality seed for my budgie. You can give your budgie Silver beat, carrot, snow peas etc but no chocolate or avocado. I hope you can get your budgies weight back to normal.. Let us know how he goes.
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Instead of finch seed I was thinking I could go for pellets - that is, if my local produce place has any. I can't imagine my budgie eating pellets though, he has eaten seed his whole life.

Maybe if I picked the oats out of the trill seed it would be better for him because all he eats is the oats if there is enough in the seed dish to fill him - On second thoughts, this would be very inconvenient.

But I still don't know that one thing - is canary/finch seed less fatty than budgie seed?

Or maybe it is not the diet, should I get my pudgy budgie to do some daily running instead? Is running as effective as flying?

I agree, switching seed can be dangerous, but so can diseases like diabetes and fatty liver disease so maybe I should get him to do more running.

What do you guys think?
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I would ask your avian vet for his opinion about switching to finch seed. In the meantime, you could try incorporating more fruits and veggies (which it sounds like you're starting to do! good job!) and allow him lots of time out of the cage to play with you. He might need your attention for 30 minutes a day to keep him running - like a personal budgie trainer!

Pellets are a very good idea in my opinion. Oats are nowhere near as fatty as seed because they are a grain, and they have lots of protein, so I wouldn't take out the oats. You might try spacing out his meals every couple of hours if you see that he is constantly munching, or give him some paper and wood toys to chew on, but I would definitely consult with your vet before trying that.

Good luck with pudgy budgy! (My own Sammy is 43ish grams and, even though he's very big as was his father, I sometimes call him a little piggy!)
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Sounds good PrincipePio, I will try out those things today
I have put in a few pine combs, gum tree trimmings and gum nuts for him to chew on.
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You can't just put pellets in the cage on its own you need to have some seed there to. Or you can mix a little pellets in with the seed so he gets use to the taste to start with.. Indigo only picks at them but he loves his seed the best and what i mix up isn't fattening so the breeder says... You can have the seed there and in another container have some budgie pellets the small ones if he chooses to nibble on them that's ok but i think you budgie loves seed. Out in the wild in Australia the budgies eat grass seed there is no pellets for them to eat.. How is your baby doing today? Oh i am pleased that you are not switching your seed it is not good for the health of your budgie and the same goes for adding pellets to... Indigo was brought up on them from when he was little...
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Hi, Fletcher! My little girl Mallorn (she doesn't like when I tell this story, she thinks she's a perfect princess) was also raised on seeds. She ate seeds for her entire life until a month and a half ago, when she finally started eating pellets. I was worried she was getting fatty liver disease based on her droppings and other symptoms, which is why many people who are unfamiliar with birds (or talk budgies, haha) often find their birds die quite soon, usually because they were constantly fed seeds.
Anyway, at first I thought my efforts were futile, but I bought a bag of ZuPreem Canary/Finch Fruit Blend pellets (bought the canary size because it was sized more like millet) and slowly, by mixing a little more into her food every week, she eventually started eating it. Now she loves them, and is at a healthy weight. Fruits and veggies will definitely help too, so good job on that!
Budgies can be very finicky, so just be sure to introduce as many new veggies as you can, so maybe he will take to one and just love it.
From experience, Mally likes anything green (romaine lettuce, kale, and broccoli) and usually like apple and carrot (no apple seeds or core, they're toxic)
I hope this helps, good luck with your little one
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Interesting story starling wings, I will watch for that brand and see if my pet produce shop has any. Lyn I think that is a wise choice if I do get pellets I will take your advice. Although the next time I go to the produce store will be next week so for now he is still going to be eating pure budgie seed.

He is 52 grams still. How many metres do you suggest he should run?
Let's hope after some good exercise he is an Olympic runner budgie.
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