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Diet and Nutrition Discuss issues related to diet and learn about encouraging your budgie to a variety of healthy foods

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Old 04-27-2015, 12:42 AM
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I'm going through a tough decision. I've fed Merlin both seeds and pellets (he obviously enjoys seeds much more) right now I have Roudybush daily maintenance crumble with a small amount of seeds mixed in. This is the seed I use:
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He gets different veggies accompanied with the seed or pellets every day, but I need to make a commitment of which to leave in his food dish. I've read conflicting arguments, and was even told by someone that pellets shouldn't be more than 30% of their daily diet, but then my Vets recommend pellets (specifically Harrison's, but it doesn't seem as appetizing as Roudybush).

Perhaps people can help me make my choice and weigh in? I'm leaning to the pellets but I just want whatever is best (seeds could always be a treat).

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Old 04-27-2015, 03:36 AM
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Very hot debate.
I say you vet is wrong plain and simple.
If you want to feed any pellets then the norm now is 25% or less.
This seem to drop all the time as we understand some of the dangers of over supply of different things.
Budgies and Cockatiels are seed eaters in the wild. And in captivity do very well or just seeds. Not that I am saying to just feed seeds. As most seed mixes are low in vit A. This is a no No. but if you do use a basic seed mix you can buy other seeds to add to the mix and improve it greatly. They should have other foods like sprouts, veges, and maybe fruits.
I myself try to keep it as fresh and natural as possible.
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Hi Kerry,

My avian vet described seeds as the McDonnalds of bird food and explained that in the wild it is not in constant supply to them - it would depend on the time of year.

Seeds have a high fat content and is full of carbs. Crumble was designed as a whole nutrition. As we know though, budgies do love their seeds and can be quite stubborn with diet alterations so I would recommend always having a supply of both available. I started by mixing the 2 together and very gradually reducing the seeds once I knew the crumble was definitely being eaten. Seeds eventually became a snack for twice a day and all other times crumble, veg and fruit were available.

The brand that I use is Vetafarm so I don't have any experience with the other brands.

I hope this helps.

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Very good to know. So I should be trying to do a pellet diet with seeds as a treat?
It's so difficult with so many different sides, I just got the two different views I was talking about
I do know he eats the pellet, I've left just dishes of crumble and watched him eat it, he has also taken it from my hand. Luckily he's still so young he will try anything, that's why my decision needs to be soon. my Vet has the same view on seeds as yours, Niamhf.
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With a larger number of birds it is easier to figure the percent desired, mix and serve in gravity feeders so that food is always available. We use Roudybush nibbles as the size is a little smaller than the crumbles.

For young or sick birds nutriberries broken up is good because the seeds are dehusked and mixed with pellets in a balanced nutrient/ molasses base. the molasses can add a little energy boost when needed to make a bird feel better and therefore naturally desire to eat more to fuel the body.

Pellets are mixes of grains and nutrients ground and blended together and then formed into pellets. These are the equivalent to the chicken laying mash or game bird starter which have a finer texture and specific percent of nutrients to encourage hens to lay better or young birds to grow better. So remember that pellets are processed food sources in a balanced percent of protein, fat , carbs and other nutrients required by a budgies body for good health. When added to seeds, fresh,frozen,dry veggies, egg food fresh or prepared, and treats the combo provides a healthy diet . The game bird starter is much cheaper for breeders with large flocks and can be found in farm feed stores that are usually in rural areas.

We travel about 45 minutes to reach the nearest feed store. We serve game bird starter/ and or ground up calf manna mixed in daily soft food to be sure our growing birds get good protein source. We also feed pellets in order to expose our birds to pellets for new owners who do not have access to feed store.

The more variety of food we expose our chicks to the easier it is to get them to try new things. I love watching our chicks walking around with mung bean sprouts hanging out of the beak and crunching for moisture as well as the concentrated nutrients the sprouts provide.

We also feed pellets for exposure to foods other than seed at an early age.
It makes them more open to new things as adults. The same with toys and cage accessories as the exposure to a variety of shapes, textures and colors makes a good mental challenge and a chick more confident when presented with a new object in the cage environment as adults.
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