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Old 06-12-2015, 08:55 PM
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Hi everyone, I'm having issues with my budgie Sierra yet again... she's possibly the most frustrating animal I've ever had to deal with and I trained ponies.

Seirra is extremely difficult about everything, especially pellets. Whenever I fill the cups up with pellets, she goes to them and throws them out the cage or onto the floor cage as fast as she possibly can. The result is her cage mate Winter never gets to try it. I'm worried that my others will begin to copy this behavior. I'm so incredibly frustrated, it doesn't matter if I take the seeds away all day and keep refilling the pellets, she will just empty the cups again. She will also grab the pellets one by one and throw them when they are mixed in with the seed. Does anyone else have this problem?

Pellets I have tried:
Lafeber's-was throwing them out a couple days after the introduction
Zupreem fruitblend- jumped in the food cup and dug them all out with her feet
Roudybush- threw them out the first day by mouth then jumped in the cup and used her feet for better efficiency

Are there even any other pellet brands out there to try? There is Harrison's but I'm not sure which one to get.

She also cannot be caged alone because when she is she throws a complete temper tantrum before flying herself into the cage bars until she's stunned and can't move. I don't know what to do with her. I'm getting really tired of her and her attitude problem about everything. :angry1:

I feel I should apologize for the rant... I do take care of her the best I can, it's just hard some days. She does have her good moments and is occasionally friendly and curious.

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she's possibly the most frustrating animal I've ever had to deal with and I trained ponies.
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Whenever I fill the cups up with pellets, she goes to them and throws them out the cage or onto the floor cage as fast as she possibly can.
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She will also grab the pellets one by one and throw them when they are mixed in with the seed.
She sounds like she's got a big personality, that's for sure!
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Lafeber's-was throwing them out a couple days after the introduction
Zupreem fruitblend- jumped in the food cup and dug them all out with her feet
Roudybush- threw them out the first day by mouth then jumped in the cup and used her feet for better efficiency
Do you reckon she's trying to tell you something?

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She also cannot be caged alone because when she is she throws a complete temper tantrum before flying herself into the cage bars until she's stunned and can't move.
Wow. I think I've just decided that maybe we should never ever get a female?

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I don't know what to do with her. I'm getting really tired of her and her attitude problem about everything.
I feel I should apologize for the rant... I do take care of her the best I can, it's just hard some days.
No-one is going to blame you! She really sounds like hard work. I totally understand how you'd be afraid of the negative impact on your other birds.
I'm sorry I don't have enough experience to offer any useful advice, except maybe for lots of deep breaths? I'm sure someone else front he forum will be able to offer some help soon.

In the meantime, may I say thank you for sharing? I really empathise with you but, not wanting to sound horrible at all, your post was very humorous. Well done if you manage to keep smiling through all this. Your girl sure is a riot

All the best of luck with her.

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Old 06-12-2015, 09:21 PM
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You've got to love it




She sounds like she's got a big personality, that's for sure!
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Do you reckon she's trying to tell you something?



Wow. I think I've just decided that maybe we should never ever get a female?



No-one is going to blame you! She really sounds like hard work. I totally understand how you'd be afraid of the negative impact on your other birds.
I'm sorry I don't have enough experience to offer any useful advice, except maybe for lots of deep breaths? I'm sure someone else front he forum will be able to offer some help soon.

In the meantime, may I say thank you for sharing? I really emphasise with you but, not wanting to sound horrible at all, your post was very humorous. Well done if you manage to keep smiling through all this. Your girl sure is a riot

All the best of luck with her.
Thanks for your reply, it made me feel a bit better. I suppose it is funny in a way, she has quite the personality for something so small

I think she's trying to tell me she doesn't want to eat pellets

Also, I don't think it's a female thing so much as it's a Sierra thing. I have another female, Skylar who is very gentle, delicate, and submissive. She does not throw the pellets or have tantrums and I can't see her picking the behavior up, just the two boys.

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Hello . sorry you are feeling exasperated with your little MISS.
Firstly I would keep to the one brand of pellets. It is not the actual taste of a particular brand that is the problem. Budgies are notorious fussy eaters and some take an extremely long and tiring amount of time to change.

Try giving the pellets in different ways, start off with a small amount of pellets to seed ratio, crush the pellets up to a fine powder sprinkle it over her seed or other foods, offer first thing in the morning when the birds are hungry. Have you been getting the small canary type pellets, these are much easier for budgies when they are transitioning from a seed diet to pellets to manage.
Don't give up you are making a difference to her diet and health. Let us know how things progress.
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Hello . sorry you are feeling exasperated with your little MISS.
Firstly I would keep to the one brand of pellets. It is not the actual taste of a particular brand that is the problem. Budgies are notorious fussy eaters and some take an extremely long and tiring amount of time to change.

Try giving the pellets in different ways, start off with a small amount of pellets to seed ratio, crush the pellets up to a fine powder sprinkle it over her seed or other foods, offer first thing in the morning when the birds are hungry. Have you been getting the small canary type pellets, these are much easier for budgies when they are transitioning from a seed diet to pellets to manage.
Don't give up you are making a difference to her diet and health. Let us know how things progress.
I did try crushing them into powder but it was a no go she just picked through the seeds. I then used the powder to make a paste then mixed the seeds in and she would not touch the seeds and decided she would rahter starve for 24 hours. I have just been getting the budgie sized pellets but will go look for some canary sized one tomorrow. Maybe the other will eat it. He was interested in the pellets until Sierra chased him away and started dumping them.

Is there anything that can be done about the throwing thing? There's a good chance that she will throw out the smaller pellets as well.

If she just will not eat them, are there any good vitamins that could be put into their water to help with what the seeds are missing?
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Do you have more than one feed cup in the cage? The other budgie might eat some and she will follow the action. They love to copy each other.
DO they get greens? Thyme , basil, parsley. E.T.C. If they are getting a balanced diet then additives should not be needed.
Of course there are drops that can be added to water. Have read through the stickies on health and wellbeing there are a good number of suggestions there.
You could try the feed cups with the cover over them have a visit to a pet shop , hens are quite good at emptying feed cups. as are baby budgies or young birds. Hopefully it is a stage she will grow out of for you.
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Thanks for your reply, it made me feel a bit better. I suppose it is funny in a way, she has quite the personality for something so small

I think she's trying to tell me she doesn't want to eat pellets

Also, I don't think it's a female thing so much as it's a Sierra thing. I have another female, Skylar who is very gentle, delicate, and submissive. She does not throw the pellets or have tantrums and I can't see her picking the behavior up, just the two boys.

Here's a picture of the troublemaker
She looks beautiful.
Do they do anger management courses for budgies? Sounds like she'd be the perfect candidate. Even on the picture she looks like she's got a lot of fire in her

I don't know if it's vitamins in her water you need as much as a tranquilliser maybe?

On a more serious note, it is a shame you can't isolate her completely, at least until the pellets are well and proper introduced into all your birds' diet. I don't know what the other members think of this but would having her in a completely different room (not just cage) make a difference to her reaction?

That not being possible, I think that Cathy's suggestion to use covered feeding cups is genius!

I am really hoping that, as seems to be the case with the majority of budgies, patience and perseverance will do the trick.
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I'd not bother with pellets. If she eats a good brand seed mix, some veggies, greens, maybe Herb Salad, etc, she will be just fine and much happier about her no-pellet diet.
If you really want to feed her pellets, try making a birdie bread with some crushed pellets (not too much). Roudybush Rice is good.
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Do you have more than one feed cup in the cage? The other budgie might eat some and she will follow the action. They love to copy each other.
DO they get greens? Thyme , basil, parsley. E.T.C. If they are getting a balanced diet then additives should not be needed.
Of course there are drops that can be added to water. Have read through the stickies on health and wellbeing there are a good number of suggestions there.
You could try the feed cups with the cover over them have a visit to a pet shop , hens are quite good at emptying feed cups. as are baby budgies or young birds. Hopefully it is a stage she will grow out of for you.
Yes, there are four in there but they only use three of them. She can't guard all of them at the same time... She really hates every single budgie she has ever met... would she still copy the eventually? Skylar has been eating them and both Stormy and Winter (before they were all dumped) started chewing on them a day later but not Sierra.

Sierra will eat oranges and sometimes bell peppers but along with the other three will not touch or go near anything green as of yet which is why I would like to get them eating some pellets. I have tried the stickies but nothing has worked. They had some bell pepper for dinner tonight.

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I'd not bother with pellets. If she eats a good brand seed mix, some veggies, greens, maybe Herb Salad, etc, she will be just fine and much happier about her no-pellet diet.
If you really want to feed her pellets, try making a birdie bread with some crushed pellets (not too much). Roudybush Rice is good.
I would be fine with a seed diet if she would eat the veggie. She will not eat any veggies or even go near them... I put the same veggie in the same place at the same time in the same way for a good three months and she would not go near it. I keep an eye out for the Roudybush rice though.

She is about 3 and has eaten only seeds her whole life...
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