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Diet and Nutrition Discuss issues related to diet and learn about encouraging your budgie to a variety of healthy foods

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I wanna give this another shot. I need a sure-fire way to make her eat pellets. I'm not sure whether it's possible to get a bird to eat pellets and seed at the same time, since I figure when she converts to pellets and you introduce seeds again she will go back to just eating seeds again.

I plan to follow this schedule:

day 1 till 7: 2/3 seed, 1/3 pellets mixed in together with seed
day 8 till 14: 50/50 seeds and pellets
day 15 till 21: 1 dish of 2/3 seeds and 1/3 pellets, and another dish of only pellets



No idea if this will work and I'm losing faith in getting her to eat pellets regulary is gonna work.


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Budgies have dislikes and likes like all humans do....

What I do is I have a birds container of fresh seed in one side of his cage and then I have another container of small pellets next to the seed dish in another container... Not in the same container.... You can't make your budgie eat pellets if she doesn't like them... She needs FRESH SEED in her diet to all Natural... My budgie eats his seed more than the pellets...But it all depends on the bird.... Pellets are kinda not natural like seed is fresh.... Meant to say I give Indi budgie crumbles little pellets...

You also have to give your budgie fresh veggies to like carrot, silver beat, corn, apple,snow peas, brocolli etc...But some members have got there birds to eat pellets.... My budgie loves his seed the best...

In the out back of Australia the wild Budgerigars don't have pellets to eat only grass seed.....
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A varied diet is the best possible diet you can provide for your budgie.
Have you tried to feed her greens, or crumbles? Sprouted seed is a great source for her as well. My birds don't like pellets too much either ,but I give them crumbles, pellets that have been crushed I sprinkle these over the seed mix , and various greens daily. Pellets are not an essential in my train of thought.
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Did you initially do anything to get your bird to eat the pellets? You said you have two seperate dishes, so did you do that from the start and one day the bird started to incorporate the pellets in her daily meals alongside the seeds out of the blue?


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A varied diet is the best possible diet you can provide for your budgie.
Have you tried to feed her greens, or crumbles? Sprouted seed is a great source for her as well. My birds don't like pellets too much either ,but I give them crumbles, pellets that have been crushed I sprinkle these over the seed mix , and various greens daily. Pellets are not an essential in my train of thought.

She thankfully loves to munch on greens like brocolli and parsley and apples.
And I usually crush the pellets into crumbs when I see she doesn't eat the pellets. Then I place the crushed crumbs exclusively in the cage. Then she doesn't touch it for a day or two and I'm forced to mix in seed into the mix, just like your sprinklemix. In the end the crumbs still get left behind alongside of the empty seed shells.


Is my method in the OP good? How is the method of only having pellets in her dish and give her seed once in the evening?
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Did you initially do anything to get your bird to eat the pellets? You said you have two seperate dishes, so did you do that from the start and one day the bird started to incorporate the pellets in her daily meals alongside the seeds out of the blue?





She thankfully loves to munch on greens like brocolli and parsley and apples.
And I usually crush the pellets into crumbs when I see she doesn't eat the pellets. Then I place the crushed crumbs exclusively in the cage. Then she doesn't touch it for a day or two and I'm forced to mix in seed into the mix, just like your sprinklemix. In the end the crumbs still get left behind alongside of the empty seed shells.


Is my method in the OP good? How is the method of only having pellets in her dish and give her seed once in the evening?
Too much parsley can be toxic, same with spinach.. they have to much iron in them. Kale, Watercress and Napa Cabbage ((Chinese cabbage) are all very healthy for budgies.
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More than 20 years ago We had a large dog that was quite willful and even be fore she was 3 months old I begged to be allowed to take her to obedience class. Well, I got my wish and we went to class. the very first thing, even before the class officially started she all but yanked my arm out of the socket and pulled me out of our assigned position over to a stretch of soft cool green grass, where she proceeded to roll over and over with great puppy celebration.

I was terribly frustrated and red faced because I was unable to force my puppy child to do things my way. I was certainly not in control. Samantha was highly intelligent and had it all figured out to my dismay!!!! The first thing we learned in obedience class was that the people handling their dogs were the students coming to class not the pups. For the rest of her very long life, 16+ years, She was always ready to test my resolve.

We learned to love each other and in her final days, she was quite lame in the hind quarters. I also had and have similar leg problems. Our side door opened to an enclose, just down 3 steps. Going out was not too bad, but going in was a huge challenge. She was able to walk with the support of a soft sling under her belly. I remember so clearly the day on the return trip when we struggled, each of us, to mount each step, we would stop and we looked each other in the eyes. That time was near! On each step, we stopped and waited for each other. Some times I took the lead and some times she would take that painful next step, each waiting and helping the other. Each of us had finally learned to have loving patience one for the other.

So what is a dog story got to do with pellets and birds? First of all just stop right now and put "My Way" out of your mind!. You are here to learn how birds experience and deal with life's challenges! You can not any way bend that little creature to your way. If you can not let go of "my Way" I suggest you get a fish tank and fill it with tropicals for pets. and find another home for your budgie.

In this new relationship, you are the little kid going to school and your teacher is that exasperating little bird. You must pay close attention to every lesson, all of the time. Nature instilled a bird with a sense of danger concerning things to eat, unless their parents taught them that this item was OK. Most budgies do not get much time to learn before a human breeder some place tears them away from their safe family and they go through a number changes as they wait for some one to take them home. They are afraid and lonely and constantly having to compete with a lot of strange other birds for food and survival. Forget the birds of prey, the danger starts with learning who to trust among the budgies they live with every day.

I suggest, that you stop forcing your bird to do anything and learn to invite this little being to learn to trust you and be your friend under budgie rules not yours. Learn the amazing feeling when birdy first willing steps up on your finger. It really is a big deal in the process of communication, and impatience, does not belong in the process. Find the humility needed to let this little bird show you how it is done. No male Macho stuff allowed. You are not in charge!!! You are putting all sorts of barriers up before you present the first pellet. Hundreds of TB members have managed to introduce pellets and gain their birds trust and acceptance. In most cases, it is not fast, nor easy but it is doable. TRUST is at the base of all that comes next and you cannot skip that step!!! You might try talking to Wiki/AnneMarie about clicker training. You have a young bird and it is not the end of the world if your bird ever eats pellets as long as it has a variety of fresh foods and protein like eggs some where in the diet. I will let some one else try to show you a process that can work into having pellets to eat, but trust and respect and patience comes first!! Enjoy life with your budgie. No excuses please.
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When I got my budgie I bought him at the age of 4 weeks old.... I put the budgie crumbles in another container yes..

But I didn't make him eat them he went down to the seed dish by himself and tried the budgie crumbles and he loves his seed the best over the crumbles... I didn't have to do anything...He ate the crumbles at an early stage... You have to start at an early age...

I buy my budgie seed from a seed produce store and mix my seed.

1 of a cup of plain canary seed
1/2 of a cup of Jat Millet
1/2 of a cup of White Millet
Small amount of hulled Oats

Mix this altogether and seal it in an air tight plastic bag then store the seed in a container store it in a dark cupboard to keep the weevils out..

Now I don't use all of what I mixed up I just fill his seed container up and the same with his other container with budgie crumbles....

The brand I use is vetafarm budgie crumbles made by the Avian vets. I'll go into my thread about pellets and check to give you the link to my picture..
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I wanna give this another shot. I need a sure-fire way to make her eat pellets. I'm not sure whether it's possible to get a bird to eat pellets and seed at the same time, since I figure when she converts to pellets and you introduce seeds again she will go back to just eating seeds again.

I plan to follow this schedule:

day 1 till 7: 2/3 seed, 1/3 pellets mixed in together with seed
day 8 till 14: 50/50 seeds and pellets
day 15 till 21: 1 dish of 2/3 seeds and 1/3 pellets, and another dish of only pellets



No idea if this will work and I'm losing faith in getting her to eat pellets regulary is gonna work.
In my amateur opinion, I don't think it is possible for a bird to have a healthy diet eating pellets AND seeds. They will always go for the seeds.

I am a Harrison's advocate, and I think that reading their website is very informative. I have successfully switched my two to Harrison's and it took months to do. I think they are worth it, although I despaired at times. My friends got tired of hearing about the "birdie bread" that I was baking.

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Here is what I use. I agree with Sandy I don't think you are going to get your bird to eat budgie crumbles if they try it and like it then they will eat it but even though they do try to eat them and they don't like it then they won't eat the crumbles..

Don't give your budgie avocado it is toxic and they can die from it plus Onion and chocolate dairy products and Junk food.... No apple seeds either..






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