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My budgies eat their veggies and I'm pleased about that, but they don't always each much of them.

Today when I removed the sugar snap peas from Sage and Jay's cage she seemed to have just been playing with them (carrying them to her perch and then dropping them). In Jake and Skye's cage, I pulled open the pods so they could see the peas and when I cam home, they had eaten all the peas from the pods.

I have tried the pellets with them (the fruity ones, I can't recall the brand but some that Deb recommended) and have had no luck, but I'm determend to keep trying and getting them eating as healthy as possible.

So I'm looking for some tips.
Am I right in thinking that crushing the fruity pellets is a good way to introduce them to the birds so they get used to the taste as being food?
Obviously, I would also like to cut down on the amount of seed they have but don't want to do it too quickly either.
I want to start the change when they get their new cages. I think it'll be easier to keep the birds getting the right amount of seed when they are two per cage.

Once I start to decrease the amount of seed, would I try and cut back on veg to encourage them to try pellets more?
I'm going to try them with some Harrisons pellets as I'm able to get them over here and see if they take to them.
I also believe ideally I want a 30% seed to 70% pellets, am I right?

Oh and millet or a budgie treat stick- once a week, once a fortnight?

I don't now if I missed a sticky about it, but any help is appreciated.

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I'm having the hardest time getting mine to eat pellets! I crush the pellets and mix with their seeds and they still avoid the pellets!
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I really want to give them a good healthy diet and I'd given up a little with the fruity pellets but I will keep trying.
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Same here, I gave up but I'm trying again!
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When I introduced pellets to my budgies, my Avian Vet recommended using Harrison's High Potency Mash and sprinkling it on the budgie's seed mix every day. This way, when the budgie hulls the seed it tastes the pellet mash and ingests bits of it as well. This helps the budgie identify the taste as a food source.

Even when sprinkling the mash on the budgies seed, I still kept a couple of other food dishes of pellets in the budgies' cages 24/7 (Usually three different kinds in three separate dishes for variety. ) Except for the Harrison's mash, I've never mixed their seed and pellets together.

One thing that worked for me was giving my budgies two rations of seed per day while keeping pellets in their cages 24/7.

I use a good quality seed mix and offer the budgies between 1/2 and 1 teaspoon of seed each morning right after I clean their cages. I sprinkle it over the clean newspaper that covers the bottom grate in their cages. This gives them the opportunity to have their seed and enjoy foraging for it too.

Once the seed is gone in the morning, they have pellets available all day. Vegetables are served in a different dish - usually on-top of the cage.

The percentage of pellets to seed ratio often recommended is 60% pellets to 40% quality seed mix.

My budgies get their second ration of seed in the late afternoon/early evening. Again on a fresh clean newspaper on the bottom grate of their cage and again about 1/2 to 1 teaspoon of seed per budgie.

When you are working to get them accustomed to eating pellets I would not cut back on their vegetables.
Vegetables healthy and it's best to keep them eating them.
Even if the budgies never accept eating whole pellets, you can always continue to sprinkle the mash on their seeds and mix it into egg food. With a good quality seed mix and a variety of fresh vegetables, your budgies will be getting the nutrition they need.

I'd also recommend using ACV in their water about 3 times a week as it is a natural pro-biotic. Using this helps maintain a healthy digestive system and boosts their immunity.
https://talkbudgies.com/articles-holi...r-vinegar.html

I give mine a treat of a bit of millet usually 2-4 times a week. Just a few little balls of millet each. You can offer a treat stick over couple of weeks.

Hopefully this helps a bit.
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I had this tab open to answer but as I got around to it, Deborah explained everything I was going to say quite well

I've heard the two best ways to convert to pellets are sprinkling crushed pellets (or mash) in with the seed, and gradual conversion. Since you've tried the latter, I think the mash solution will work. You can also use Lafeber's Nutriberries to get them used to the taste of pellets, too!

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DONT GIVE UP!!

I honestly had reached a point after several months (I'm talking at least nine months) of trying all sorts of methods to get my budgie to eat crumble (over here you can buy finely crushed pellets called crumble which is more easily manageable by our budgie friends) and I was so close to throwing in the towel when one day I noticed him finally eating the crumble (I had it mixed through the seeds 50/50) I was thrilled.

Very slowly over time I eventually got him to a point where crumble was available all day to him and seeds were a treat once on the evening and once in the morning and he happily ate his crumble during the day.

It's a challenge but stick with it
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Keep persisting with the conversion to pellets. What I did was to mix the seed and pellets together, and once they have picked all the seed out, leave it for half a day so they get hungry and are more likely to try the pellets before replacing the seed. Personally I only give a small amount of seed every few days, I just stick with the pellets. Even like that one of mine was always overweight! I believe the Vetafarm pellets I use are designed to make up 80% of the diet to provide complete nutrition. As for the veggies, I agree, no need to cut them back. I must say I struggle to get mine to eat different veggies so well done for that! I keep bits of millet as a training treat and give them blocks of seed only occasionally.
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Remember not to remove the seed completely until you are 100% sure they are eating the pellets. Budgies can be extremely stubborn and would rather starve than eat something they are unsure of or dislike.
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When I introduced pellets to my budgies, my Avian Vet recommended using Harrison's High Potency Mash and sprinkling it on the budgie's seed mix every day. This way, when the budgie hulls the seed it tastes the pellet mash and ingests bits of it as well. This helps the budgie identify the taste as a food source.

Even when sprinkling the mash on the budgies seed, I still kept a couple of other food dishes of pellets in the budgies' cages 24/7 (Usually three different kinds in three separate dishes for variety. ) Except for the Harrison's mash, I've never mixed their seed and pellets together.

One thing that worked for me was giving my budgies two rations of seed per day while keeping pellets in their cages 24/7.

I use a good quality seed mix and offer the budgies between 1/2 and 1 teaspoon of seed each morning right after I clean their cages. I sprinkle it over the clean newspaper that covers the bottom grate in their cages. This gives them the opportunity to have their seed and enjoy foraging for it too.

Once the seed is gone in the morning, they have pellets available all day. Vegetables are served in a different dish - usually on-top of the cage.

The percentage of pellets to seed ratio often recommended is 60% pellets to 40% quality seed mix.

My budgies get their second ration of seed in the late afternoon/early evening. Again on a fresh clean newspaper on the bottom grate of their cage and again about 1/2 to 1 teaspoon of seed per budgie.

When you are working to get them accustomed to eating pellets I would not cut back on their vegetables.
Vegetables healthy and it's best to keep them eating them.
Even if the budgies never accept eating whole pellets, you can always continue to sprinkle the mash on their seeds and mix it into egg food. With a good quality seed mix and a variety of fresh vegetables, your budgies will be getting the nutrition they need.

I'd also recommend using ACV in their water about 3 times a week as it is a natural pro-biotic. Using this helps maintain a healthy digestive system and boosts their immunity.
https://talkbudgies.com/articles-holi...r-vinegar.html

I give mine a treat of a bit of millet usually 2-4 times a week. Just a few little balls of millet each. You can offer a treat stick over couple of weeks.

Hopefully this helps a bit.
I just checked with the pet store where I saw the other pellets and they have a Harrison's High Potency super fine food, which I'm guessing is the mash (for any UK members, these if on the Pets at Home website- they have a much better range online than in stores). So I think I'll be ordering some bits soon.

Thanks for all the great advice. I'll try and see if they take to it. All I can do is keep trying with them and see if they go for it. I want them to be as healthy and happy as possible and I'll keep trying different ways to introduce them as long as I can. I also have trouble getting them to eat egg food, but it's another thing I'll persist with.

I have ACV and have used it infrequently, probably about once a week. It's another thing I'll get into a regular schedule with them.

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I had this tab open to answer but as I got around to it, Deborah explained everything I was going to say quite well

I've heard the two best ways to convert to pellets are sprinkling crushed pellets (or mash) in with the seed, and gradual conversion. Since you've tried the latter, I think the mash solution will work. You can also use Lafeber's Nutriberries to get them used to the taste of pellets, too!

Best of luck
Thank you! I will persevere!

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DONT GIVE UP!!

I honestly had reached a point after several months (I'm talking at least nine months) of trying all sorts of methods to get my budgie to eat crumble (over here you can buy finely crushed pellets called crumble which is more easily manageable by our budgie friends) and I was so close to throwing in the towel when one day I noticed him finally eating the crumble (I had it mixed through the seeds 50/50) I was thrilled.

Very slowly over time I eventually got him to a point where crumble was available all day to him and seeds were a treat once on the evening and once in the morning and he happily ate his crumble during the day.

It's a challenge but stick with it
Thank you. They are stubborn but it is worth it when they take the plunge! Thank you!

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Keep persisting with the conversion to pellets. What I did was to mix the seed and pellets together, and once they have picked all the seed out, leave it for half a day so they get hungry and are more likely to try the pellets before replacing the seed. Personally I only give a small amount of seed every few days, I just stick with the pellets. Even like that one of mine was always overweight! I believe the Vetafarm pellets I use are designed to make up 80% of the diet to provide complete nutrition. As for the veggies, I agree, no need to cut them back. I must say I struggle to get mine to eat different veggies so well done for that! I keep bits of millet as a training treat and give them blocks of seed only occasionally.
Thanks!

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Remember not to remove the seed completely until you are 100% sure they are eating the pellets. Budgies can be extremely stubborn and would rather starve than eat something they are unsure of or dislike.
Oh I won't remove them from their diet completely. It's not my intention to ever take them away from them forever, just convert as much as possible to a healthy pellet/seed mix.
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