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Diet and Nutrition Discuss issues related to diet and learn about encouraging your budgie to a variety of healthy foods

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Hello friends!

I was wondering if someone could point me in the right direction. I give my budgies fruits and veggies daily. Usually a combination of: celery, cucumber, lettuce, apples, and broccoli. These are the usual suspects. I try carrots every once in awhile but nobody likes it! Long story short my new budgie Dizzy showed Blue that it was ok to try new things and now she is open to trying fruits and vegetables when previously they were frightening to her despite the daily exposure to them so I am still new to nutritional foods for my budgies. (Side note: What an amazing/adorable moment it was when after years of trying, Blue first tried lettuce .. because Dizzy fed it to her.. and she instantly loved it!!..agh my heart!)

I am now realizing they are probably not getting the nutrients that they need. They sit by a window all day (though I have been told this is not giving them any vitamin D) and I buy the best budgie seed mix at the pet store and they always have access to some Hagen seed mix that is for conditioning (though I am unsure if this really does anything)

When I bought a used cage awhile ago, the lady gave me her leftover supplements and I never used them because I was not sure how. It says it is okay for budgierars on the back but I'm confused. Is this a food replacement or supplement?



Also this stuff below has no feeding instructions either. Do I just sprinkle it on their seed??



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Roudybush pellets are a great food. Since you are already feeding veggies and fruits, and quality seed, getting them going on a quaity pellet will pretty much round out their nutritional need's. We have some great info on converting your bird's diet. I feed mine pellets as a main staple, veggies most day's, and some quality seed in the evening daily. Egg/egg food is great to get them going on for protein needs during molting, and sprouted seed is more nutricious than regular seed. We have lot's of good info on all this in our diet and nutrition section, check it out....
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Roudybush pellets are a great food. Since you are already feeding veggies and fruits, and quality seed, getting them going on a quaity pellet will pretty much round out their nutritional need's. We have some great info on converting your bird's diet. I feed mine pellets as a main staple, veggies most day's, and some quality seed in the evening daily. Egg/egg food is great to get them going on for protein needs during molting, and sprouted seed is more nutricious than regular seed. We have lot's of good info on all this in our diet and nutrition section, check it out....
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I have used a powder like in your picture, and just sprinkled on top of food. I do the same with probiotic powder. Care must be used though because if your bird's are eating a good diet, they really don't need supplementation. I use pro b's, egg, and in the past, powders like that when my birds are molting and have more needs to recover...
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My birds will not touch pellets! I have given them Hagen Prime (like you have there) since July specifically to help Hugo who needed a boost for his feather condition (he had a miserable first 6 months of life due to French Moult). They would not accept it on their food, so I mixed it into their water - one measure of the scoop they provide into 200mls of water, very, very well stirred. I stopped using it last week as I judged that that Hugo is through his ordeal and they should be getting what they need from their normal diet: quality seed, a lot of veg and occasional fruit. I was never quite comfortable giving it to the birds that did not seem to need it. A week on and they are fine. Whether the supplement helped Hugo or not I have no idea.

There are a lot of opinions on this business. I have only used supplements in my whole budgie career when I have identified a particular problem. I would suggest that most pet budgies get along fine with no direct sunlight living indoors just on a normal healthy diet. Sometimes I think we can create a problem that really is not there!
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I'[m a huge fan of Roudybush! This is what I feed to all my birds, along with fresh sprouts every day.

They also carry a different formula for breeding birds too, giving them more needed nutritional value.
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Many of the big breeders here in the US use either Prime or Vetafarm Soluvite D,Available from ladygouldianfinch.com. Lady G has a wonderful clay powder with a wide range of micro nutrients. Many of the common chew blocks/ cuttlebone have a few of the most common minerals but many miss Iodine for example. I was so pleased to find this resource as it answers many of the exotic minerals that birds are exposed to in the wild at the famous salt licks. I love that it is a powder as many of things lacking we as novices ca not possible know to add to a good diet. We offer it in a little a la carte cup as well as sprinkled on soft food especially when feeding chicks. In our standard flight cages I like to offer a chewing wall. That is a place where budgies can meet and chat and chew.

On the wall you will find kabobs, cuttlebone, manu roses and brown salt mineral wheels. And a few new blocks to keep the offering fresh and interesting. Our vet once noticed and was pleased that we used the wheels. They are actually very cheep. Look for them in the small animal department. and on the counter in rural feed stores. We buy a case at a time, which is actually a small box that is easily stored. At any one time there will be coffee clatche at the wall doing what budgies do best. The expensive wooden perches have fewer attacks because there are so many interesting items for them to try. For most things The birds have a choice to chew or not to chew. We always put a pinch of powdered clay on the soft food. Because budgies crack their seeds they get a lot less nutrition offered in prepared seed mixes. Le feber offers nutriberries and these have the shells removed. We keep these on hand as treats and to fatten sick and injured
birds that are recovering from some trauma. The Lefeber line has varying degrees of pellet vs seed. So you can feed a standard pellet or a tasty choice and still get the nutrients attached to the seed. This is often an easy way to add pellets to the diet with out a major battle. We also use the smallest pellet available -nibbles or crumbles in Roudybush maintenance and breeder that has more protein . We have sampled with good results Zupreme in fruit and organic natural color,again using the smallest seed size pellet, and Harrisons mash . When we had a large flock we used gamebird starter in 50 lb bags to save money. The fancy pellets quickly eat up a breeders profit. The necessary nutrients are there without the hype. The bottom line, biscut and egg is similar to soft food with a mash or pellets. grain is grain no matter what dress you put on it. The other item we get from Lady G is Herb Salad which is a variety of dried grasses/seeds flowers that budgies might seek in the wild to provide a boost when a budgie feels a little off and needs an immune system boost from the herbal budgie medicine cabinet. We have dry alfalfa in a bin up off the floor for budgies to play and forage in.

In our aviary , a bird staying low on the floor is suspect and is immediately brought in for observation. Electrolyte like guardian angel and probiotic added to water and extra warmth from a variety sources like a snuggle to a ceramic heat only lamp. We have several small hospital/travel cages ready to set up with water/food/meds. Most of the time budgie gets a few days to rest and is returned to the flock, but on rare occasions a vet visit is called for. We have standard operating procedures developed over the years as the most efficient for us. The SOP as the military/police call it takes a lot of the fear and shock away and gives you something to do. Do not waste precious time with "what ifs" You can think about this later when budgie is better. This was a hard one for me to learn, but is simply a waste of precious time needed to keep a budgie alive.

With a large number of birds you simply are unable to watch every mouth full each budgie takes. So we do offer supplements a la carte and on the soft food just in case. We have yet to have an overdose of nutrients diagnosed by our vet.. For me it is a matter of respect to allow our budgies the option of participating in their diet choices. The wisdom of Nature provides a resource for animals to tap into in times of need .

This is an area that requires a lot of attention on the part of a budgie parent to select just the right resources for your budgie child from all of the choices available. If you are feeding a combo of fresh/dry fruits and veggies/eggfood and biscut or pellets and a good seed diet high in good base seed like canary and low on the oil seeds like flax that does play a role in breeding and molting nutrients your budgie should be just fine in the area of nutrition. There are a lot of great Stickys here on TB to help you get things just right for your budgie. Enjoy the process of research .
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Jo Ann, that all sounds so amazing! Can you post a picture of "The Wall" if you have one handy? I'd love to see it!
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We do not have any pics but is simple just chose a wall and hang thing all over /up and down with places for budgie to sit or hold . For example a long millet spray can serve 2 -to 4 budgies peacefully munching and singing just on different levels and next to a kabob or a manu rose. It will soon be time to bring in some ***** willow branches. What a circus that can be. We fill top of cage so they can hide in the "leaves" while mid to lower is for stretching wings and a little peaceful dining. Always have at least 2 of everything and more if a particular toy has a territory discussion. Best Wishes. Jo Ann
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In addition all of the wonderful advice members have offered, please also take the time to read the information in the "Budgie Articles" section of the forum.

You will find the articles broken down into subsections and there is a good deal of information you may find helpful.
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