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Diet and Nutrition Discuss issues related to diet and learn about encouraging your budgie to a variety of healthy foods

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Default Tundra, Tiki and Nova's Diet

Anyone tried Jen’s Organic Herb and Spice Parakeet / Parrot Food (Nature’s Pharmacy)

Saw this herb mix online and it looked intriguing. Any thoughts these kinds of ingredients? These kinds of herbs etc pretty well tested?
Anyone tried this one or one similar?

If so how did u serve it?

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I've never tried it, but as far as ingredients go, this might help:

Organic Budgie Parakeet Food For Sale
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Default If you've used Mash, I have a quick question!

So Ive had my Tiki on mash for a while now- maybe a year or so. I put a nice thick layer on top of his seeds that he has to dig through to get to his seeds.

Thing is, when he's done eating his seeds there is still mash in the bowl. With mash, are they supposed to be eating it all up? When yours ate their mash, did they finish it? Or was much always left behind?

I know mine is partially because I put a lot, but even when I experimented with a tsp the other day he still left a lot.

With that said, since starting it his feathers were so much more brilliant so I know it helped, but I really don't know how much he eats. Was just curious what other people's did.

While I'm on the subject, I feed my 2 year old, Tiki, high potency mash. Is this bad for him as he's an adult? Is this high in fat? Or just high in protein?

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Default How does their diet and exercise sound?

So lately I have really overhauled Tiki (my 2 year old's diet) with the purchase of two new budgies. Tiki, possibly because our new guy Tundra is such a good veggie eater, Tiki is accepting veggies for the first time in his life.

So here is what they are getting currently:

I found some lovely sprouted lentils, sprouted quinoa, sprouted brown rice that are all dried. (Bought sprouted dried mung beans too but haven't tried yet). They are sold at Whole Foods by Tru Roots.

I cook up all the above every other day and serve in the morning. I put in whatever veggies I have on hand. Today was peppers, carrot, kale, basil. Once a week I'm adding an eggshell. Then I add 1 tsp of pellets (this is new for Tiki- he never touched them before but I'm seeing him eating them in the veggies!) and a sprinkling of millet (which is just to entice them just now but hope to ween them off in next few weeks). I then top it with probiotic powder. They eat together every morning.

I also sprinkle pellets at a cage liner outside of the cage every morning now so they can forage and get used to pellets.

Both Tiki and Tundra can eat a lot of pellets. I know it's WAY more than recommended but they both eat two tablespoons of seed a day. One of the tablespoons though is this organic brand where a lot of it is dried veggies and fruit:

https://www.amazon.com/Dr-Harveys-Pa...+parakeet+seed

I top the 2 tablespoons with 2 tablespoons of Harrison's high potency mash so they *really* have to eat through it all to get to the seed. ;-)

I'm also serving the same veggie/ pellet mix at night. I figure between those two feedings they are getting some pellets and veggies in them.

Whenever i"m in the room i let them out, which amounts to hours a day they fly freely in our main room. They run mostly but have tons of time exploring.

Both their weights are steady, I've been weighing them, and Tiki is 35 and Tundra is 31.

Questions:

1) Is their diet too protein heavy? Is daily Quinoa and High potency mash ok (especially for Tiki who is not a baby anymore)?
2) They eat a higher amount than 1-2 tsps of seed per day, but Tiki's weight has always stayed the same for two years and he is eating a variety of stuff and getting exercise. Is this ok?

Thank you for your time as always
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1. Anyone tried Jen’s Organic Herb and Spice Parakeet / Parrot Food (Nature’s Pharmacy)

I haven't tried the particular mix you indicated but I do use the Herb Salad listed in the link below and my budgies all love it!

ladygouldianfinch.com - Twin BeaksĀ® Aviary Herb Salad™

https://talkbudgies.com/diet-nutritio...s-budgies.html

2. Harrison's High Potency Mash is high in protein and which may be too much for an adult budgie if given in large amounts. When I use it, I simply sprinkle a bit over the seeds, I do not coat the seeds with a large layer of mash.

If your budgies are now accustomed to the mash, you should be able to introduce either Harrisons pellets, or Roudybush pellets to them and use those instead of the mash.

3. I would back off on the amount of Quinoa and High Potency Mash if I were you. Too much protein can cause kidney and/or liver problems. I'd suggest trying Harrisons pellets or Roudybush pellets instead of the mash at this point in time.

Two Tablespoons of seed is quite a bit. Generally 2 teaspoons of seed per budgie per day is what is recommended. However, your birds are by no means overweight so they are obviously getting plenty of exercise.
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Thanks so much for all this good information here! I had no idea about high protein and kidney/ liver issues

My boys love to eat together. May I give them both adult mash and Or adult pellets or is that a disservice to the younger one? They like to eat from each others bowls at breakfast and dinner. Tundra encourages Tiki to eat his veggies.

As for boiled eggs/ shells/ quinoa or lentils, how many times a week would you recommend these more high protein foods instead?

Both my boys are starting to like pellets since I made them soft on their veggies! Tiki is FINALLY eating them and not just crunching them. So I think it's time he converts over now for sure. That will be my project this week.

Maybe should I do pellets on veggies in morning, pellets during the day, seeds for dinner and keep pellets in over night?

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If you are sprouting the quinoa and lentils then you can feed them like any other vegetables.

If you are cooking and serving them quinoa, (be sure you rinse it very well before cooking!) then I'd limit the cooked quinoa to once or twice a week. I usually mix cooked quinoa in with my budgies egg food.

I give my budgies 2 teaspoons of seed per day rationed to 1/2 in the morning and 1/2 in the evening.

Tiki is old enough to eat adult pellets at this point in time.

My birds have access to Roudybush mini pellets and Zupreem Fruity Pellets 24/7.

At this time, I only use the Harrison's High Potency Mash when they are molting and only add a sprinkle of the mash over their seeds.
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Thanks so much for your answers. I appreciate it. I bought some pellets for Tiki for adult.

I have a question about *speed* of conversion to pellets. So my boys eat some in their pellets with veggies and peck at pellets when they forage in the morning and eat them. But I would like to fully convert them over to them.

I've seen people say you do the 10%, 25%, 75%, 100% conversion of pellets but increasing them over 2 week increments. I've also seen people say increase it every three days. In your experience, what speed works best with budgies?

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Even when "converted" to pellets, you need to ensure your budgies are receiving 1 1/2 to 2 teaspoons of seed each per day.

I wouldn't worry about "conversion" myself.
If your budgies are eating some pellets then that's good enough.
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Yes, I think they are eating 'some' hidden in their veggies and mash thrown on top of their seeds. That good enough probably?

And yes, I still will give them seeds

Also, in a week I think I 'may' put my boys together. Two questions about this concerning their diet

1) Tundra (our young boy) is a fantastic eater. He encourages Tiki to eat everything. But could Tiki's worse eating habits rub off on Tundra? Or does it usually go the other way around? So far, it seems Tundra has encouraged Tiki.
2) They have different pellet needs. I don't want to feed Tiki the high potency ones, but TUndra should have these correct? If they are eating together in the same cage, which pellets should I choose? High protein ones for Tundra? Or adult lifetime (low protein) for both?

Great to know about the sprouted being able to be served regularly btw. They love them and i'll keep it in rotation then.
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