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Diet and Nutrition Discuss issues related to diet and learn about encouraging your budgie to a variety of healthy foods
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Red face Deciding on diet

I'm getting a couple of new baby budgies, but since birds aren't popular pets in my area so the resources are very limited and I can't find pellets anywhere. Can someone please tell me what mix is better quality, because I lack the experience to decide.

https://www.petsathome.com/shop/en/pe...gie-food-500gm

https://www.petsathome.com/shop/en/pe...udgie-food-1kg


I'm thinking of adding some dried fruit (and fresh): https://www.petsathome.com/shop/en/pe...online-only%29

and eggfood: https://www.petsathome.com/shop/en/pe...00gm-for-birds

to the diet also, but would like to know if this is a good idea.

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I would not recommend using "Trill". I've heard it isn't a good choice in seed and there have been problems with recalls.

You'd be better off ordering a good high-quality seed mix through Amazon.
Volman Avian Science Bird Seed

You can get your budgies used to the taste of pellets by using Harrison's High Potency Mash

Harrison's High Potency Mash

Please take the time to read the tips on how to introduce new foods to your budgie which can be easily found in the stickies in the Diet and Nutrition section of the forum.

When I introduced pellets to my budgie, my Avian Vet recommended using Harrison's High Potency Mash and sprinkling it on the budgie's seed mix every day. This way, when the budgie hulls the seed it tastes the pellet mash and ingests bits of it as well. This helps the budgie identify the taste as a food source.

Many members seem to find the easiest pellets to use for introducing pellets to their budgies to be the CANARY sized Zupreem fruity pellets. Most budgies like the taste and the "Canary" sized pellets are tiny enough for them to easily eat them. Once they've become accustomed to the Fruity Pellets, introducing the smallest "natural" pellets is then an easy step.

Other than when I was using the Harrison's mash, I've never mixed my birds' pellets and seed together. My birds have three separate dishes each with a different brand/flavor of pellets available to them 24/7. Their seed is rationed to approximately 2 teaspoons of seed per budgie each day. I give them seed first thing in the morning right after putting clean newspapers on the bottom grate of the cages. I sprinkle their morning ration on the paper so they can forage for the seeds. I then do the same thing in the evenings (after replacing the soiled newspaper with clean) and again allow them to forage for their seed.

All of my birds have the option to eat the available pellets whenever they like throughout the day and they all enjoy them!

Once your budgies get used to the mash, you can try

Harrison's Super Fine Pellets
Harrison's Adult Lifetime Superfine Pellets

Roudybush Crumbles or Roudybush Minis

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Zupreem Fruity Pellets in the Canary size
Zupreem Fruity Blend for Extra Small Birds

With regard to egg food, I don't buy dried egg food myself.
I simply boil an egg, mash it up and give it to the budgies.
You can also mix in cooked quinoa (rinse it very well before cooking) and/or vegetables. You can make a large batch of egg food and freeze it in small portions in ice cube trays, transfer the frozen food into a plastic bag for freeze storage, take out what you need when you need it and you're all set.
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Hi there,

My budgies have that pets at home seed mix, though I preferred their discontinued premium mix.

Pets at home do have Harrison's pellets available online (free delivery to store). Though I haven't managed to persuade my birds to eat them yet. Though I'm not surprised, maybe I'm anthropomorphising but they seem so boring, same colour, same taste, same texture and the website states 'Supplementation should be limited to no more than 10% of the overall diet....Over-supplementation may result in dilution of nutrients.'

My budgies do seem to like nutri-berries (via Amazon) but some owners dislike them as they have added sugar. I like the fact that they seem to combine the best of both seeds and pellets.

I've just ordered zupreem canary sized pellets (via Amazon) to try but they're from the US and have a ridiculous 4wks delivery estimate, so I not sure if they're even a viable long term option.

I don't want to start any transatlantic arguments but I read an interesting article the other day that really had my head spinning over what to do for the best:
Pellets-Yes Or No

(Thanks for that seed mix recommendation Faerybee, I'll order that now!)
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Thank You.
I'll avoid Trill and try and get my parents to order the Harrison pellets from Pets At Home (we have had some bad experiences with Amazon), but their not keen on ordering stuff online so I may have to stick to what I can find in-store. They'll never hear the end of it though.

I still need to ask the breeder what he's weaning the budgies onto, if it's Harrison's my mum may reluctantly give in.
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I don't want to start any transatlantic arguments but I read an interesting article the other day that really had my head spinning over what to do for the best:
Pellets-Yes Or No
Please keep in mind that Talk Budgies does not recommend a complete conversion to pellets -- conversely, we recommend that pellets simply be a part of a budgies' healthy diet.

As I've said in many different posts, all budgies should be given a high quality seed mix on a daily basis.

Each budgie should receive 1 1/2 - 2 teaspoons of seed per day.

I keep pellets available in my birds' cages 24/7.
I certainly don't expect them to be the major portion of my budgie's diet however and I've never obsessed about how much of the pellets the birds are eating. I know all of my birds nibble at the pellets (some eat more than others).

Vegetables and egg food are also important components of a health diet.

https://talkbudgies.com/articles-diet...ur-budgie.html

https://talkbudgies.com/articles-diet...-seed-mix.html

https://talkbudgies.com/articles-diet...lay-roses.html

Best wishes everybudgie!!
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I agree with Faery completely. Start your budgie young on a variety of foods!
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I'm getting a fairly young budgies, they'll still have their stripes, but I'm not sure how young they'll be. Apparently the breeder told my mum that they should be fine if I feed them normal budgie seed mix and lots of millet, but that's what my last budgie had and it ended badly.
I'm not giving up with the pellets, I try not to make the same mistake twice. I'll buy the pellets myself if I have to.
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Yes Faery, I have noticed previous posts and thanks for the links.
I DID & DO still agree with the recommendations of this site, I just think it's worth noting what the pellet producers will instruct, as other buyers like myself, might then start wondering, 'so if I'm not using 90% pellets, should I be adding extra vitamin/mineral supplements as well?'
There are a lot of different opinions and financial incentives out there and overthinking diet can cause an owner's head to spin trying to quantify everything.
Rereading my previous post I can see that it wasn't very eloquent (it would have made more sense if I'd included the links on this sit) - what I was basically trying to say, was that the end of the day, it's still an educated guesstimate and if we can provide variety whilst still aiming for a nutritional ideal, then we're doing well.
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Thanks for the clarification JRS -- much appreciated!
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