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Diet and Nutrition Discuss issues related to diet and learn about encouraging your budgie to a variety of healthy foods

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Old 06-18-2019, 07:11 AM
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Hello everyone!
I'm sorry for not being active on the forum lately.
Anyway, I decided to take your advice (the same advice of my vet) and convert my budgies' diet from seeds to pellets.

I bought the pellets yesterday and I sprinkled some of them in the seed cup, but the budgies obviously ignored them (I know it takes a lot of time), so I decided to give them the pellets with my hands.
Celeste, who is four months old, immediately started to eat them and, while she still has to learn how to eat them, I can say she likes the pellets.
Unfortunately, it wasn't the same with her parents, Sid and Stella. Sid accepts food from my hands, but when I offered the pellets to him, he refused to eat them and now he bites me everytime I do it again.
Stella is not tamed at all, so I didn't even try to offer the pellets to her. But if Sid starts to eat them, I'm sure she will too.

My only problem is that Sid is at least 6 years old (I bought him on August 2014 and, on an Italian forum, they told me, looking at his photos, that he was more than a year old), so he is a little old and I think he, just like an elderly person, might not accept to change his habits.
Do you think It is too late for him? Or could he learn to eat pellets after eating seeds for at least 6 years?
Thanks in advance!

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Old 06-18-2019, 05:35 PM
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I'd recommend using the method my Avian Vet suggested to me. That will help Sid get used to the taste of the pellets without you offering them from your hands.

When I introduced pellets to my budgie, my Avian Vet recommended using Harrison's High Potency Mash and sprinkling it on the budgie's seed mix every day.
This way, when the budgie hulls the seed it tastes the pellet mash and ingests bits of it as well.
This helps the budgie identify the taste as a food source.

You can make a mash (which is basically powdered pellets) by grinding the pellets up in a food processor, blender or even using a mortar and pestle.

It worked for my all of budgies and lovebirds!

Many members seem to find the easiest pellets to use for introducing pellets to their budgies to be the CANARY sized (XS) Zupreem fruity pellets.
Most budgies like the taste and the "Canary" sized pellets are tiny enough for them to easily eat them.
Once they've become accustomed to the Fruity Pellets, introducing the smallest "natural" pellets is then an easy step.

Other than when I was using the Harrison's mash, I've never mixed my birds' pellets and seed together.

My birds have Zupreem Fruity Pellets, RoudyBush Mini Natural Pellets, Dried Herb Salad and Miracle Meal available at all times.
(Yep - I have a lot of food dishes! )
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Thank you!

Unfortunately I live in a small city in Italy so I don't have access to those pellet brands. The only pellets I found in the pet stores nearby are the Versele-Laga Nutribird B14 pellets, but my vet said they are great so I'm currently giving them to my budgies.

Anyway, I made a mash and I mixed it with the seeds, and now they definitely smell like the pellets and Sid surely ate some of them.
I will give you updates.

About Celeste, since she already identified the pellets as food, can I simply mix the pellets with the seeds without powdering them, increasing the amount of pellets day after day? Or should I make a mash anyway?
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That’s great that Sid and Celeste have taken to the pellets! You can offer them whole in a separate dish, and see. Keep in mind too, not all budgies are hard to transition. In fact, I’ve never had a bird who I needed to coax to eat pellets. They always love them right away. The method in Deborah’s post above is for budgies that may need more help accepting pellets.
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You can mix the pellets with the seed for Celeste if you wish. You don't need to mash them up for her since she already has taken to them.

However, I prefer to keep my birds' pellets in one dish and their seed in a separate dish.
Much less waste with that method and I can easily ration the seed to the 1 1/2 teaspoons of seed per budgie per day.
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Unfortunately, Sid and Stella completely ignore the pellets if they are in a different dish. Celeste does it too, she probably doesn't consider the pellets proper food, also because she can always eat the seeds.
Mixing seeds and pellets seems to be the best option in this case, as, like you said, they can get used to the taste and identify the pellets as food.
I will observe them to see whether they make a step in the right direction or not.
Again, thank you very much!
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Hello,

I've successfully converted all budgies we've had to pellets (including a 6+ year old).

We went down the route of:

a) Getting some some Harrisons Mash (or grinding up the normal ones) into a bowl
b) Mixing in some seed
c) Adding some water and mixing it into a paste

They took to it immediately. I eventually didn't put the seeds in and they continued without issue.

If you do this however, change it every 2-3 hours (Harrisons emailed me this info) otherwise the food will spoil.
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Thank you for your reply.

Sid and Stella have actually started to eat the pellets after I decided to trick them with a mirror a couple of days ago: I put it the mirror on a food cup that I had previously filled with the pellets, and they presumably thought "the other budgies" (their reflections) were eating them, so they tasted them.
Today I saw that they both were eating the pellets, they seem to do it better than Celeste does.
Maybe I should try to remove all the seeds and only leave the pellets to see how they react.

About Celeste, she is a weird budgie. I mean, she knows that the pellets are food and eats them (with a bit of difficulty, though) if I put them next to her on a platform or if I give them to her with my hands, but if I replace the seeds with the pellets, she "panics" and looks for seeds on the bottom of the cage, completely ignoring the food cup with a lot of pellets.
If I put both the seeds and the pellets in the food cup, she only eats the first ones and "panics" when they are over.
What should I do? Have you ever had a budgie that acted like this?

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Yeah, cold turkey has only worked for me when a bird was super young. A bunch of conversion methods from manufacturers recommend keeping the old food (seed) around and gradually replacing it when you know that your bird is eating more of it.
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I hadn’t a picky budgie who wouldn’t touch pellets. What I did was buy some of the “sensible seed” mix by Zupreem for my budgies. It has a little bit of everything in it including some canary pellets which are the same ingredients as the budgie kind but slightly smaller and seed sized, and some full sized budgie pellets. and after a few months of feeding them this I was able to transition them to the budgie pellets (mine prefer the fruity kind) also by Zupreem.
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