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Diet and Nutrition Discuss issues related to diet and learn about encouraging your budgie to a variety of healthy foods

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Old 02-12-2020, 08:06 PM
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I haven't been on this forum in a long time! At this moment I'm on my 4th budgie. This is my first female so this will probably be a new experience. The interaction time has come around and that's always fun. I've felt her chest and her keel bone is badly out. I've never felt a keel bone that was this noticeable. I'm afraid she is extremely underweight. I don't believe it is illness caused because I don't know when she brought in and if she was pushed away from food at the pet store. You probably know how they throw 8-9 budgies in a glass display. Some are just pushed away and barely get to eat and that's where I see this going. I've noticed she is lethargic though her poop is normal. I was wondering if there is any reversal or way to help her gain weight. She hops down about 5 times and eats really small portions. I leave her alone during this time but it still doesn't seem that she gets enough.

EDIT: I've talked to a vet a little earlier today and have researched a lot. I've noticed a slight tail bobbing the urates have become a yellowish tone. The vet said Vitamin A is helpful towards respiratory problems. I haven't seen her mouth breathing or excessively tail bobbing. Just a slight bobbing moment every once in a while. I've also listened closely and don't hear any certain noises coming from her breathing. Which, I did hear with JD when he started his respiratory problems. I just feel as this is a second doozy on the pet stores part. I've been cautious of picking birds from pet stores but you can't always get lucky if you get one who wasn't noticed to be sick and was left in there. They hide it greatly so it's easy to pick the most active bird and watch them get sick over a period of a week. The pet store I'm working with has a guarantee that they will take in sick birds if it shows up after purchase. I'm thinking that is the best bet if this carries on. It's hard to say this but I hate working with vets with sick birds. It's awful and I'd rather someone else do it.


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Old 02-13-2020, 09:45 AM
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Ted,

I truly believe when one chooses to adopt an animal, you are taking on the responsibility and commitment to ensuring that animal gets the very best possible care for its entire life.

Looking at a budgie (or any other living creature) as a "disposable" pet or one that can "be returned if it is sick" is not giving that animal the love, care and attention it deserves.

I find it extremely sad that you've continued to buy from big-box pet stores when you already know the birds they offer come from birdie mills and have often been kept in deplorable conditions before ever being offered for sale.

You are aware these birds are genetically pre-disposed to illness and generally have a much shorter life-span yet you've continued to support the supply/demand cycle by purchasing from these stores.

It's unfortunate that you chose to purchase a budgie from a store where you knew the likelihood of poor health as a great risk and especially distressing that you now don't wish to follow through with the responsibility of caring for that bird.

If any member is unable to do that financially or emotionally, then I strongly suggest that person refrain from adopting any type pet in the future.

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The purpose of this particular forum is to promote BEST PRACTICES in the care of budgies for their optimum health and well-being.
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I understand what you mean. I don't support mills but at the same time I'm unsure of breeders as well. I've considered adopting my fourth, but I have no idea how to find correct breeders. I do understand the responsibility and the pet shop I run through takes them in once to see the vet (with documentation). So yes, I'm getting care for her if this doesn't calm down this weekend. If you could recommend breeders to me I'd definitely use that in the future. However, the pet store I got her from wasn't a "big-box" its a different one this time that is more family based. The first two were lucky from PetSmart and those were my first two so I wasn't aware of mills.

No matter of the situation I've always found ways to find care for my last three. Mercedes was very healthy but I unfortunately decided this small apartment wasn't for him. He was a very wild boy and drag raced around the apartment. I knew he would be happier to roam somewhere bigger. He was given to someone with a much larger place and he is in good hands. As for JD he fell sick and we had to put him down. We tried our best and gave him all we could before he passed. I haven't really posted anything about these changes because I've fell out of the internet and focused on me. Hopefully this clears a lot up.
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UPDATE: I was able to get her to the vet today. The vet said yes, she is severely underweight. The vet also said she is one of the smallest birds they have ever seen and confirmed that yes, her liver is failing. He also determined she is definitely anorexic and isn't getting what she needs. Which I've noticed with her small portions and rarely drinking water. The people I've got her from knows someone who has an aviary of special birds. I've decided that's the best place for her to go. She needs someone who has more experience in the past with anorexic budgies. I also asked the vet about this being genetic and they were sure it's just because of her experiences.

I'm taking her to go see this person and check out the aviary tomorrow. I want to make sure this is a good place for her before I let her join. I'm not giving her up because I don't want her. I'm giving her up because I know this is a lot better care than what I can give on my own. I'm not very experienced with sick budgies and budgies who have special needs.
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It sounds like you are trying to make good choices for the sake of your bird. The story sounds very sad all around.
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Thank you for explaining the situation in greater detail and taking the proper steps to ensure the budgie receives the love, care and attention it deserves.
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You are welcome! I took her and the place was very clean and the woman was friendly. They are keeping her under quarantine before they introduce her to her new flock. She has about 4 aviaries with birds who all fit in a certain personality range. She only has about 4 who are separate because they don't get along well with others. She said she would update me on how she is doing.

As for my new baby who happens to be another female it has been a good time. She chirps every so often but I haven't seen her eat or drink for the two days I've had her. I've seen no hulls at all and I can't really tell with water. I haven't bothered her because I know she is probably still settling in. She is jumpy and iffy and has a look of shock. I'm guessing she isn't ready to eat or come down to drink yet. She stays in the same place and doesn't move. I have heard her beak grinding and she becomes puffy sometimes and sleeps. Otherwise her feathers are down and she just sits there. She has started being more alert and watching me move around. What I normally check for is tail bobbing and poop the first few days. Her tail only slightly moves for balance and that's a really good sign. Her poop though has turned up normal but with a green urine stain around it. For now, I'm not really concerned about her poop because she isn't eating or drinking so I know it won't be perfect. Stress also is influencing it so I'll have to see if things change with progress.

Update: I moved the perch closer to the bowl where she sits and she started eating! Later that night I introduced her to millet. I woke up this morning and there is undigested seeds in her poop. They resemble millet seeds and don't look like normal seeds (i've seen normal diet seeds being regurgitated before). Is there a possibility she cannot digest millet but she can digest her normal diet seeds?

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