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Old 02-01-2015, 11:22 PM
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Default Possible liver disease? Please help!

Hello everyone,
I am a new face around here, although I've owned my girl for three years now.
She has been on an all seed diet since I got her, as when I started caring for her I didn't know any better Of course, I knew enough to give her fruits and veggies, lots of playtime and a clean and large cage.
At any rate, today her poop was green and runny and after doing research I have determined it is a possible case of fatty liver disease from eating an all seed diet (although the seed mix has pellets in it she ignores them )

Because of this, tomorrow I intend to go to my local pet store and buy ZuPreem pellets for Small Birds to integrate into her diet, another food dish so she can always have fruits and veggies instead of me constantly hand-feeding her, and Ecotrition Vitamin Drops to supplement her needs.
I'm really worried about her, although she hasn't shown any other symptoms, because it can be fatal if left untreated. I don't have the means to take her to an avian vet, unfortunately, but I love my baby and don't want her to be sick! What else should I do?

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Old 02-02-2015, 08:28 AM
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Instead of treating her yourself have you tried taking her to an avian vet? It would take a blood draw to really know how the liver is doing. Milk Thistle / Dandelion Alcohol-free Herbal extract. The link shows a good product.

If you have just one budgie I will tell you they will go after the veggies faster if they are sharing with another budgie. Birds that have green droppings are seed eaters as you said. Pellets would make the droppings more brown. Harrisons high potency extra fine is a wonderful pellet that is about the smallest in the parrot food industry. Mine will not eat Zup or Roudy.
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Old 02-02-2015, 01:42 PM
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Sorry to hear that your little one is not feeling well. Having recently taken Draga (acquired her in October as her family moved back to Europe) to the vet, I would encourage you to do the same. I picked her up from my parrot store that I frequent as she was dropped there the day before the family left Canada. They had not realized it would be so difficult or take so long to find her a home.

The owner of the store (and I agreed) thought the large growth on her abdomen looked like fatty liver disease. I started to research immediately diet for fatty liver disease. Draga is 7 years old and has been on an all seed diet her whole life prior to being with me. I started to noticed, however, that in the morning her abdomen seemed to be almost normal. I had completed changed her diet, only giving her sprouted seeds (less fat), lots of spring greens which she loves, fruit and veggies. She is also loving her Totally Organic Crumplets which have no artificial colours or preservatives. She also gets milk thistle seeds in her pellet dish to self medicate with and lemon zest in her fresh food that is very supportive of her liver. She receives no seeds unless they have been soaked and/or sprouted. I limit the amount of seed daily to 1.5 - 2 tsp. She is an English budgie that is now around 56g.
Imagine my surprise when the vet told me that she just has the largest crop that she has ever seen in a budgie much less a parrot! No fatty liver disease. Moral to my long tirade is that the vet will be able to really tell you if it is fatty liver or not or something else. I am still feeding her as if she has it as it is a: a more balanced diet and b: I want to be proactive instead of reactive. Look forward to hearing what the final diagnosis is!
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I'd also recommend a vet visit. My own Sammy has had an enlarged liver during some of his illnesses, and they can see it on most simple x-rays. He takes a liver protector twice daily (it has milk thistle in it) and we're in the process of switching him to Harrison's Adult Lifetime.

There are other causes of green, runny droppings: megabacterias (which cause lime-green droppings with undigested seed), not eating enough (which could be caused by a host of other problems), or eating more or less of a particular food, like a veggie.

Best of luck and let us know!
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Thanks for your suggestions, It's good to know other people out there have experienced some of the same problems! Also: I'll let you know how she does! I have an herbal tea made with milk thistle, orange peel and barley I'm going to give her after dinner
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