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Question Mystery growth on back

I wonder if anyone has seen this before? See attached pics.

Basically, I have had my female budgie for 4 years now. I got her as a rescue bird when she was a baby.

From the first day we got her, we quickly realised that there was a problem as she couldn't fly at all, and we noticed her one wing didn't sit flat against her body like the other.

I had a look at her and found a big bald lump on her back where the wing meets her body. The vet said she was probably born with it. Realising there was nothing to be done, we got on with it, created a disabled-budgie friendly living environment and she became a quirky part of our little flock.

Anyway, four years on, I am so used to her disability that I only notice her lump when she is especially wet due to soothing her pin feathers.

Seeing the lump tonight has stirred my curiosity again. Could she have been born with it, or could it be an injury sustained when she was a tiny baby that wasn't treated?

She has never seemed to be in pain with it. It hasn't ever changed size or colour, but has always been bald except for one solitary fluffy feather that grows there!

Interested to hear if anyone else has seen this before?
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That's very unusual, but I am no bird expert.

Some of our more experienced staff or members might have some suggestions for you.
I take it this was an avian vet she went too?

Just for my own curiosity, is she an English budgie? it seems like her soggy feathers look especially long.
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Welcome to the forums!

I can't say I have ever come across something like that with my birds.
If she had that growth since a very early age, then it really is possible that she hatched with that type of deformity.

Did the vet perform more thorough examinations to try to find out what that mass is made of?
Does the "hunchback" limit her mobility/dexterity when walking around, climbing, jumping between perches, etc or does it only hinder her ability to fly?
Is she able to move around her neck/head well?
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We think she has some English budgie blood as she is a lot fluffyier than our other budgie who is very svelte. She isn't 100% English budgie though- she is quite small but has some rather long feathers. She is cute and round whatever she is

The lump doesn't affect her neck at all, she still preens as normal and sleeps with her head on her back. Looking at her when she is dry, all you really notice is the funny angle of her one wing. But it is definitely a hunchback sort of affliction rather than angle wing.

She is definitely less mobile than our other bird. He seems to be made of rubber and we nicknamed him Tiger because he is so springy and bounces all over the place. She, on the otherhand, is rather clumsy and prefers to climb everywhere rather than jump. I have never ever seen her jump perches, she always just clambers about. She has a slightly odd run too. Again, it is a bit clumsy and ungainly. She just ran across the carpet now and it almost looks as if one leg is longer than the other which gives her a funny run. We always put this down to one of her toes which is also a bit misshapen (very special budgie!). But I guess it could relate to her shoulder issue too.

Sadly she can't fly at all. She can't get any upward trajectory at all. It is sad because she still tries at least ten times per day but always ends up on the carpet (their cage is always on the floor to stop her hurting herself.

Sadly, the vet at the time didnt think it necessary to do further checks. He put it down to a birth defect, said it couldnt be fixed and she would have to live with it. I took her to another vet who said the same thing so I left it.

I think I will try another vet as I have moved. It would be great if I could fix it but a long shot I am sure. I just hope it doesn't cause her pain...it doesn't seem to.
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She's very sweet anyway.

I have a girl who seems to be a little bit like that as well. Extra fluffy but still regular budgie sized. it's very cute, though she's never got herself as wet as your little lady!

It'll be good to get a fresh opinion about the lump and to make sure it truly isn't causing your little one any pain. Its great how you have adapted to having her with you and made it work for you. She's a lucky lady!
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Given the location of the growth, her mobility issues may very well be correlated.
It's great that you have adjusted her cage and surrounding areas to better accommodate her.
When thinking on the long run, it would be good if you had a better understanding on her condition in order for you to be able help her out more as she grows older. The avian vet will also be able to offer their professional advice on this.
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I will submit mine experience and my opinion this ..

1st case i had one like this ( exactly ) on a canary .. it was an inside feather cyst , he had these cysts each time he was molting .. it was because he was the childe of diferent types of feathers canaries .... They had to be removed beacuse if they just break .. the blood that comes out might be vital ..

2nd case of mine was cancer .. the " good one " .. on a carduelis chloris .... in this case also had to be removed asap ..

3rd pimple with white liquid inside .. in a budgie face , again must be removed ..

I cant stand the thing they didnt examine the bird .. " probably born like this , born defect " ..... as said you have to know what it is made of .... you have to see an orni vet , avian vet i dont know how to call it but not just vet .... especially if you havent noticed this thing on her back before for 4 years now ..

Wishes the best for her : )

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Hi there and to the forums!

What a sweet girl! You've been given great advice and resources so far.

I agree that perhaps finding a vet to do an X-ray to find out what is in the mass is the best option. This way, you will be able to see if it is an abnormal bone growth or muscle problem that would be a birth defect, or actually a tumour that could be removed and improve her quality of life.

I'm glad that she is unfazed by her disability and already enjoys herself! Keep us posted on how things progress

Be sure to read through the forum's many articles and "stickies", or threads "stuck" to the top of each subforum for easy reference. If you have any questions after reading through everything, please be sure to ask as we'd love to help!

Hope to see you around, and we hope to see more of your flock around, as well!

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Since she's had this for four years and she's otherwise healthy, it's unlikely it is anything that "needs" to be done other than the special set up you've made for her. It is very likely either a spinal defect she was either born with of a defect that she acquired when she was growing up in the nest box...possibly crowded as a smaller baby with larger siblings. Love her for her uniqueness.
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